[Leica] My Leica is better than your cell phone

[zoeica at mac.com (Chris Williams)]

Okay so the cellphone clearly was having focus issues. And the M8's  
lower 320iso is extremely noisy in these images. I get what you're  
saying but these were not the best images to use as a comparison.

Is the gap really that huge? Depends on what you're trying to express  
IMO.

There are going to be some 20"x30" iholga images on display in  
Cleveland, MS starting August 21st. Just in case anyone wants to stop  
by.




Chris Williams
www.zoeicaimages.net
www.rebirthworkshops.com
504-231-6261




On Aug 1, 2010, at 4:36 PM, Peter Klein wrote:

> A friend took some photos of me with his cellphone at a party I was  
> shooting with my M8. The light was a combination of tungsten and  
> cloudy-dull window light.
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/friends/Davidov30/IMG00028-20100619-2032.jpg.html
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> >
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/friends/Davidov30/IMG00029-20100619-2035.jpg.html
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> >
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> And I shot him as he shot me.
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/friends/Davidov30/L1006540-w-1.JPG.html
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> >
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/friends/Davidov30/L1006542-w-1.JPG.html
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> >
>
> Sorry, folks, no contest.
>
> Size does matter, up to a point, that point being determined by the  
> size you want to print and display, the amount of light available,  
> and whether all you care about is recognizable photos of your  
> friends, or something more.
>
> All the talk about "crop circles" has a point, but I think that  
> decent 1.5x (APS) and 1.33x (M8) crop sensors and a good, fast lens  
> can give us plenty of quality in normal room light. So can Micro 4/3  
> if you don't crop. A cell phone or a small-sensor P&S really can't.
>
> Put those cameras out in bright sunlight, and some of the  
> differences go away, at 4x6 print or Web size.  But for much bigger  
> display, and in anything but bright light, the P&S and cell phones  
> don't cut it.  The gap between a cell phone or P&S and the M8 is  
> huge. The gap between the M8 and M9 is small, but significant, and  
> gets more significant as available dark gets darker. The gap between  
> the M9 and say, a D700 is big--I'd say bigger than the one between  
> the M8 and the M9, but only matters in the worst light.
>
> --Peter
>
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