Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/08/01

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Subject: [Leica] IMG: My Leica is better than your cell phone
From: shino at panix.com (Rei Shinozuka)
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2010 20:00:18 -0400
References: <4C55E8DC.9010409@threshinc.com>

very nice.  the unambiguous and razor-sharp point of focus (selective 
DOF being another advantage of a large sensor) makes the case for me.  
case closed!

-rei


On 08/01/2010 05:36 PM, Peter Klein wrote:
> A friend took some photos of me with his cellphone at a party I was 
> shooting with my M8. The light was a combination of tungsten and 
> cloudy-dull window light.
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/friends/Davidov30/IMG00028-20100619-2032.jpg.html>
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> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/friends/Davidov30/IMG00029-20100619-2035.jpg.html>
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> And I shot him as he shot me.
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/friends/Davidov30/L1006540-w-1.JPG.html>
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> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/friends/Davidov30/L1006542-w-1.JPG.html>
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>
> Sorry, folks, no contest.
>
> Size does matter, up to a point, that point being determined by the 
> size you want to print and display, the amount of light available, and 
> whether all you care about is recognizable photos of your friends, or 
> something more.
>
> All the talk about "crop circles" has a point, but I think that decent 
> 1.5x (APS) and 1.33x (M8) crop sensors and a good, fast lens can give 
> us plenty of quality in normal room light. So can Micro 4/3 if you 
> don't crop. A cell phone or a small-sensor P&S really can't.
>
> Put those cameras out in bright sunlight, and some of the differences 
> go away, at 4x6 print or Web size.  But for much bigger display, and 
> in anything but bright light, the P&S and cell phones don't cut it.  
> The gap between a cell phone or P&S and the M8 is huge. The gap 
> between the M8 and M9 is small, but significant, and gets more 
> significant as available dark gets darker. The gap between the M9 and 
> say, a D700 is big--I'd say bigger than the one between the M8 and the 
> M9, but only matters in the worst light.
>
> --Peter
>
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