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Subject: [Leica] Wartime experiences
From: alal at poly.edu (A. Lal)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 18:22:06 -0400
References: <g2k6a7544a61004010849zf75dcf5fj46f102a6678b4b80@mail.gmail.com><C1400E5A-2262-46AA-A200-05BFB52321D1@frozenlight.eu> <84F677DE-3142-4817-BB01-263F12AF9539@charter.net>

Questions below
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "slobodan Dimitrov" <s.dimitrov at charter.net>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Wartime experiences


>I stand on the opposite side of this issue, and not too far from the Sony 
>radio reaction, when it comes to Germany.
> I still see the focus on individuals and organizations as a form of alibi.
> Sometime ago, I called attention to the role of Central European entities 
> to some of the current adventurism >and bogus rehabilitations.

Slobodan, would you mind elaboration on these points for those of us not 
familiar with "focus on individuals and organizations as a form of alibi" 
and "current adventurism and bogus rehabilitations."?

>I was publicly attacked by a semi official arm of the German government as 
>a hateful person based on my >ethnicity.
>Mind you, I never identified myself as anything other than an American 
>veteran. After I did some
>cursory research, I found out that the writer was from the German embassy 
>in Mexico CIty, one of their >largest missions in the world.
>You figure out why!

Sorry to say I am clueless. Details please.

>I went to the Jewish Federation, here in LA, for advice
 >on a response. They got a chuckle out of it, as did I, and told me it 
would be pointless to get into a spitting >contest with them. So I left 
enough alone. But it was a reminder that the Balkan Spiel in still in play 
at >Berlin, well in to the late 20th century, and into this one.
> S.d.
>
>
> On Apr 1, 2010, at 3:50 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
>
>> This hits very close to home. My father lost most of his extended family 
>> during the Holocaust and spent the years 1943-45 killing as many German 
>> soldiers as possible. His war ended on VE-Day in Bernau, 35 km from 
>> Berlin.
>>
>> Yet, he never advocated collective guilt. His first wife was German. We 
>> visited Germany frequently during my childhood and adolescence, and today 
>> I am very comfortable there. The Germany of today has nothing to do with 
>> the Germany of the 1930s.
>>
>> If you want to pick on a country, pick on Japan whose leaders still feel 
>> obliged to make annual visits to a shrine which commemorates war 
>> criminals.
>>
>> Nathan
>>
>> Nathan Wajsman
>> Alicante, Spain
>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>>
>> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0
>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 1, 2010, at 5:49 PM, Lawrence Zeitlin wrote:
>>
>>> Frank writes:
>>> "My cousin bought a little Sony portable radio in the 60s with the money
>>> earned on his paper round. My uncle smashed it to tiny pieces using his
>>> hammer, and gave him the money..."
>>> - - - - -
>>> I am a Korean War vet and I absolutely refuse to buy anything made in 
>>> North
>>> Korea. Not that I have had much opportunity to buy North Korean goods. 
>>> South
>>> Korea is OK. My parents, who lost relatives in the holocaust were 
>>> appalled
>>> that I bought a German made Leica until I told them about the Leitz 
>>> "Freedom
>>> Train." However I still feel uneasy about visiting Germany. Emotional 
>>> scars
>>> last a long time.
>>> Larry Z
>>>
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Replies: Reply from s.dimitrov at charter.net (slobodan Dimitrov) ([Leica] Wartime experiences)
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Message from photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman) ([Leica] Wartime experiences)
Message from s.dimitrov at charter.net (slobodan Dimitrov) ([Leica] Wartime experiences)