Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/03/22
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Le 23 mars 10 ? 07:16, Vince Passaro a ?crit : > > Got it. > > On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 2:00 AM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com > >wrote: > >> often works to downsize to 800-1000 pixel jpeg on the longest >> side..... Agreed, this is the minimum size one can assess a picture technical quality these days, post-stamps no longer do since the D700/M9 came out. Phx >> >> then upload, >> >> >> Steve >> >> >> >> On Mar 22, 2010, at 10:57 PM, Vince Passaro wrote: >> >>> Did I say GIF? I meant TIFF. >>> >>> Actually in my upload software (it's a windows 'wizard') there's an >> option >>> for downsizing the images which i should remember to use. I may re >>> upload >>> these to see the difference. Thanks for hte advice. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:47 AM, Jim Nichols >>> <jhnichols at lighttube.net >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Vince, >>>> >>>> Sounds like you have received some good advice on the RAW >>>> conversions. >> I >>>> have never tried posting GIF images to the LUG gallery, but they >>>> seem to >>>> have worked ok. I normally post either JPG or TIFF images. I have >> found >>>> that I get best results by sizing the images to 700 or 800 pixels >>>> on the >>>> long dimension. Your flower image appears to be 4000 pixels on >>>> the long >>>> side, and, when the gallery software resizes it to fit the normal >>>> screen >>>> size, you get a very soft image. Enlarging the image using the >>>> "double >>>> square" at the top or bottom gives the full size that was uploaded, >> which >>>> cannot be viewed as a whole. You might also experiment with >>>> removing the >>>> default size info in the second edit option block, so that your >>>> chosen >> size >>>> is displayed as you uploaded it. I find that they look better >>>> that way. >>>> >>>> Good luck in mastering all of these options. I find it has been >>>> worth >> my >>>> while to do so. >>>> >>>> Jim Nichols >>>> Tullahoma, TN USA >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vince Passaro" < >>>> passaro.vince at gmail.com> >>>> >>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 12:29 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Photoshop Altamont -- some questions for the >>>> wisdom >>>> ofthe LUG. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> am doing so. many thanks. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:25 AM, Steve Barbour < >> steve.barbour at gmail.com >>>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> yes, now for CS4 try Adobe Camera Raw 5.6 support for >>>>> G1...download and >>>>>> install, should work OK, >>>>>> >>>>>> Steve >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 22, 2010, at 10:12 PM, Vince Passaro wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I fooled around until far far too late an hour last night and >>>>>>> learned >>>>>> some >>>>>>> things, one of which is CS4 can't open G1 raw files. Further, >>>>>>> when I >>>>>> opened >>>>>>> a few G1 jpegs in CS4 Camera Raw and messed around with them >>>>>>> -- I >> even >>>>>>> taught myself how to use lasso tool, how to smooth out my >>>>>>> terrible >>>>>> efforts >>>>>>> with lasso tool, and reduce the glare on a particular portion >>>>>>> of my > >>>>>> photo >>>>>>> that had light bouncing off some glass -- these files saved as >> anywhere >>>>>> from >>>>>>> 25MB to 60 (!!!) MB in size. To mount them on the lug gallery >>>>>>> I had >> to >>>>>> save >>>>>>> for web, which made them into 5MB tiff files but also stripped >>>>>>> away > >>>>>> some >>>>>>> layers of the work I'd done and rendered what had been clear >>>>>>> and deep >>> >>>>>> now >>>>>>> noisy and fake looking. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But I posted them anyway for your helpful comments and >>>>>>> instructions. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/toast+eatin_+bog+man/Photoshop+Altamont/ >>>>>> . >>>>>>> Two 'Photoshopped" files and one prior for comparison. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Meanwhile, I went looking for why CS4 could nae open me wee G1 >>>>>>> raw > >>>>>> files, >>>>>>> and so found an Adobe update/patch to download (Camera Raw >>>>>>> 5.2, equiv >>> >>>>>> to >>>>>>> whats in the LR 2.2 beta I believe), downloaded it, but also >>>>>>> read the >>>>>>> following asterisk which I wonder if one of you might take a >>>>>>> stab at >>>>>>> explaining to me. It appears to indicate that the D-Lux-4 and >>>>>>> various >>>>>>> Panasonic models (two of which I own, happy me) have a >>>>>>> proprietary >> raw >>>>>>> program which Adobe cannot really deal with yet so they advise >>>>>>> one >> not, >>>>>> for >>>>>>> now. If one does, files will be three times the size of other >> converted >>>>>> raw >>>>>>> files... because of a tripling of the mosaicing or demosaicing >>>>>>> or > >>>>>> however >>>>>> it >>>>>>> works. Any comments on this wil be MOST helpful. Here's the >>>>>>> text: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **With the release of Camera Raw 5.2 (and upcoming release of >>>>>>> Adobe >>>>>>> Photoshop? Lightroom? 2.2), there is an important exception in >>>>>>> DNG >> file >>>>>>> handling for the Panasonic DMC-LX3, Panasonic DMC-FX150, >>>>>>> Panasonic >>>>>> DMC-FZ28, >>>>>>> Panasonic DMC-G1, and Leica D-LUX 4. For those who choose to >>>>>>> convert >>>>>> these >>>>>>> native, proprietary files to the DNG file format, a linear DNG >>>>>>> format >>> >>>>>> is >>>>>> the >>>>>>> only conversion option available at this time. A linear DNG >>>>>>> file has >>> >>>>>> gone >>>>>>> through a demosaic process that converts a single mosaic layer >>>>>>> of >> red, >>>>>>> green, and blue channel information into three distinct >>>>>>> layers, one >> for >>>>>> each >>>>>>> channel. The resulting linear DNG file is approximately three >>>>>>> times >> the >>>>>> size >>>>>>> of a mosaic DNG file or the original proprietary file format. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This exception is a temporary solution to help ensure that >> Panasonic's >>>>>> and >>>>>>> Leica's intended image rendering from their proprietary raw file >> format >>>>>> is >>>>>>> applied to an image when converted DNG files are viewed in >> third-party >>>>>>> software titles. The same image-rendering process is applied >>>>>> automatically >>>>>>> in Camera Raw 5.2 and Photoshop Lightroom 2.2 when viewing the >> original >>>>>>> proprietary raw file format. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In a future release, Adobe plans to update the DNG >>>>>>> specification to >>>>>> include >>>>>>> an option to embed metadata-based representations of the lens >>>>>> compensations >>>>>>> in the DNG file, allowing a mosaic DNG conversion. In the >>>>>>> interim, > >>>>>> Adobe >>>>>>> recommends only converting these files to DNG to allow >>>>>>> compatibility >>> >>>>>> with >>>>>>> third-party raw converters, previous versions of the Camera >>>>>>> Raw > >>>>>> plug-in, >>>>>> or >>>>>>> previous versions of Photoshop Lightroom.* >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>>> information >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>> information >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>> information >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>> information >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > NO ARCHIVE