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Subject: [Leica] Photoshop Altamont -- some questions for the wisdom of the LUG.
From: passaro.vince at gmail.com (Vince Passaro)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 01:29:53 -0400
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am doing so. many thanks.


On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:25 AM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at 
gmail.com>wrote:

> yes, now for CS4 try Adobe Camera Raw 5.6 support for G1...download and
> install, should work OK,
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> On Mar 22, 2010, at 10:12 PM, Vince Passaro wrote:
>
> > Well.
> >
> > I fooled around until far far too late an hour last night and learned
> some
> > things, one of which is CS4 can't open G1 raw files. Further, when I
> opened
> > a few G1 jpegs in CS4 Camera Raw and messed around with them -- I even
> > taught myself how to use lasso tool, how to smooth out my terrible
> efforts
> > with lasso tool, and reduce the glare on a particular portion of my photo
> > that had light bouncing off some glass -- these files saved as anywhere
> from
> > 25MB to 60 (!!!) MB in size. To mount them on the lug gallery I had to
> save
> > for web, which made them into 5MB tiff files but also stripped away some
> > layers of the work I'd done and rendered what had been clear and deep now
> > noisy and fake looking.
> >
> > But I posted them anyway for your helpful comments and instructions.
> >
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/toast+eatin_+bog+man/Photoshop+Altamont/.
> > Two 'Photoshopped" files and one prior for comparison.
> >
> > Meanwhile, I went looking for why CS4 could nae open me wee G1 raw files,
> > and so found an Adobe update/patch to download (Camera Raw 5.2, equiv to
> > whats in the LR 2.2 beta I believe), downloaded it, but also read the
> > following asterisk which I wonder if one of you might take a stab at
> > explaining to me. It appears to indicate that the D-Lux-4 and various
> > Panasonic models (two of which I own, happy me) have a proprietary raw
> > program which Adobe cannot really deal with yet so they advise one not,
> for
> > now. If one does, files will be three times the size of other converted
> raw
> > files... because of a tripling of the mosaicing or demosaicing or however
> it
> > works. Any comments on this wil be MOST helpful. Here's the text:
> >
> > **With the release of Camera Raw 5.2 (and upcoming release of Adobe
> > Photoshop? Lightroom? 2.2), there is an important exception in DNG file
> > handling for the Panasonic DMC-LX3, Panasonic DMC-FX150, Panasonic
> DMC-FZ28,
> > Panasonic DMC-G1, and Leica D-LUX 4. For those who choose to convert
> these
> > native, proprietary files to the DNG file format, a linear DNG format is
> the
> > only conversion option available at this time. A linear DNG file has gone
> > through a demosaic process that converts a single mosaic layer of red,
> > green, and blue channel information into three distinct layers, one for
> each
> > channel. The resulting linear DNG file is approximately three times the
> size
> > of a mosaic DNG file or the original proprietary file format.
> >
> > This exception is a temporary solution to help ensure that Panasonic's
> and
> > Leica's intended image rendering from their proprietary raw file format
> is
> > applied to an image when converted DNG files are viewed in third-party
> > software titles. The same image-rendering process is applied
> automatically
> > in Camera Raw 5.2 and Photoshop Lightroom 2.2 when viewing the original
> > proprietary raw file format.
> >
> > In a future release, Adobe plans to update the DNG specification to
> include
> > an option to embed metadata-based representations of the lens
> compensations
> > in the DNG file, allowing a mosaic DNG conversion. In the interim, Adobe
> > recommends only converting these files to DNG to allow compatibility with
> > third-party raw converters, previous versions of the Camera Raw plug-in,
> or
> > previous versions of Photoshop Lightroom.*
> > .
> >
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Replies: Reply from jhnichols at lighttube.net (Jim Nichols) ([Leica] Photoshop Altamont -- some questions for the wisdom ofthe LUG.)
In reply to: Message from passaro.vince at gmail.com (Vince Passaro) ([Leica] Photoshop Altamont -- some questions for the wisdom of the LUG.)
Message from steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour) ([Leica] Photoshop Altamont -- some questions for the wisdom of the LUG.)