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Subject: [Leica] Farah, Afghanistan
From: lluisripollquerol at gmail.com (Lluis Ripoll Querol)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 01:44:12 +0100
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Wendy,

Many thanks for the Plustek Scanners, this is usefull and I'll keep  
some more.

Concerning your grain on Tri X is IMO more than usual, the reasons  
coud be diverse or a mix or someones, film badly conserved, low  
exposure, developping temperature to high...., as said I've developped  
a lot with ID-11, it is practically the same formula as D-76, but when  
I've do this the box containt a graphic time/temperature very useful.  
My process was easy: pre-soap the film in water about 30 sec. at the  
same temperature as the developper, verse the developper, agitate the  
first 30-45 sec. and after 5" every 30". If I wanted special detail on  
the shadows I interrupted the developping during 5 to 10 minutes  
putting water - always at the same temperature - . The other steps,  
the usuals. I've used too HCC 110, a very nice developper offering  
clean contrasts, but basically I've used for medium format, on 35mm  
the grain is quite noticeable in my opinion. I've learned many things  
and also I've understood better after I've red "The Negative", I  
always recommend this book.

Sorry to be so long, I'm sure that you already know very well the  
procedure, I've just talk my old method.

Goodf luck,

Cheers
Lluis

El 11/03/2010, a las 2:24, Wendy Thurman escribi?:

> Lluis-
>
> I'm struggling with the processing- I haven't hit on the right  
> technique
> yet.  I've got some Xtol and may try that.  While I don't mind a  
> little
> grain- expected it with the Tri-X- I am getting more than I'd like.   
> The
> other extreme is Pan-F, which I have some of and will try next.
>
> While I haven't used the Plustek enough to comment with authority,  
> it seems
> to be doing the job.  The two SE and AI are the same scanners (I  
> believe)
> with different software packages.  I have the cheaper version, the  
> SE.  It
> comes with Silverfast software; if you are using a Mac don't install  
> the
> Plustek software that also comes with it- it won't work.  Silverfast  
> runs
> fine on the Mac, however.  This is my first experience with a  
> scanner so I
> am commenting from a pretty shallow statistical pool; it works fine,  
> doesn't
> cost an arm and a leg, is lightweight, and easy to use.  I  
> understand that
> VueScan works with it as well and is more user friendly than  
> Silverfast but
> I don't know anything about that package.
>
> What I can tell you with absolute certainty is do not spill gin and  
> orange
> juice on your MacBook Pro keyboard.  I'm having issues as a result  
> of that
> mistake.
>
> Wendy
>
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 3:15 AM, Lluis Ripoll Querol <
> lluisripollquerol at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Wendy,
>>
>> I'm always interested for your pictures of this far country, I'm  
>> usually
>> quite fascinated by the oriental culture. I like the first one, it  
>> shows a
>> dessertic place. IMO ther is quite grainy, I've developped on my  
>> darkroom
>> days Tri X and HP 5 with D-76 or Ilford ID-11, almost the same  
>> formula and
>> the effect of temperature had a certain big influence on the grain,  
>> I think
>> remember that I prefer D-76 at 1:3 to achieve a more large range of  
>> tones,
>> and I does a systematic quite vigourous agitation. I'm sorry to  
>> explain
>> this, I want just tell you what I remember.
>>
>> On the other hand I see on your EXIF that you have scanned these  
>> with a
>> Plustek Scanner 7500i, I was just planning purchase one of these, I  
>> know
>> that there is the 7500i SE and AI, and I don't know which is the  
>> difference.
>> I scann with an Epson Photo 3170 flatbed scanner, I'm quite happy  
>> for B&W
>> but not for color. Are you happy with your Plustek?
>>
>> Please continue showing us pictures of Afghanistan, I enjoy them!
>>
>> Cheers
>> Lluis
>>
>>
>>
>> El 09/03/2010, a las 18:05, Wendy Thurman escribi?:
>>
>> A couple of shots done last week in Farah; M6 50 'lux, Tri-X in D76.
>>>
>>> There is a massive citadel in Farah built by Alexander the Great.   
>>> It's a
>>> kilometer on a side and very difficult to shoot; it's just too  
>>> large.  We
>>> had hoped to get there at sunrise but we had an overcast day:
>>>
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Wendy+Thurman/farahdun.jpg.html
>>>
>>> Next day, waiting at the airstrip for the ride out when an AN-12  
>>> (Russian)
>>> landed with pallets of soda pop:
>>>
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Wendy+Thurman/AN_12.jpg.html
>>>
>>> Thanks for looking.
>>>
>>> Wendy
>>>
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