Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/01/26

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Subject: [Leica] Great Moments in the History of Communism
From: hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 21:57:23 +1000
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Hi Nathan, yes I understand. We don't speak politics of any kind around here
by general agreement. These cameras are only being offered within China, I
think. Presumably the Chinese citizens who may purchase these don't see
their national history and politics in the same way as way as people from
other nations (see them). Or at least consider the cameras to be worthwhile
to purchase for whatever reason. Tolerance and co-existence? No-one else is
being harmed, except maybe regarding the questionable taste of gold plating
perfectly good cameras.

Feel free to disagree with me off-list if you want!
Cheers
Geoff
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman


2010/1/26 Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>

> Geoff, what some people found ironic is the commemoration by a Western
> company of a Communist takeover 60 years ago and the implied glorification
> of the tyranny that followed. Nobody is saying that Leica should not sell
> its products in countries with nasty governments like China or Russia, but
> some of us do not like the further step of issuing commemorative editions 
> to
> glorify those regimes.
>
> Cheers,
> Nathan
>
> Nathan Wajsman
> Alicante, Spain
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>
>  On Jan 26, 2010, at 7:42 AM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote:
>
> > I don't know anything about the Chinese market except that I did hear
> about
> > those commemorative limited editions made for sale there. The gaudy gold
> one
> > is not personally my cup of tea.
> > I don't follow why some people in other countries have taken offence
> (based
> > on political views or history) that Leica has made these available in
> China.
> > Seems like the countries of origin of our favourite cameras have some
> > historical significance as well. Of course there is a Leica store in
> Moscow
> > as well etc etc. As far as I know these are not even offered for sale
> > anywhere else but perhaps some may end up in other collectors' cupboards.
> > On the M8 and M8.2, certainly Leica has said that serial production has
> > stopped when the M9 was introduced. That doesn't preclude limited
> > 'commemorative' runs though.White M8s for example were certainly still
> being
> > assembled in Solms last July after M8 serial production had stopped.  I
> > imagine that these types of sales help cashflow for Leica for little
> effort.
> > Cheers
> > Geoff
> > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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In reply to: Message from wildlightphoto at earthlink.net (Doug Herr) ([Leica] Great Moments in the History of Communism)
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Message from hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson) ([Leica] Great Moments in the History of Communism)
Message from photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman) ([Leica] Great Moments in the History of Communism)