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Subject: [Leica] Flying With Camera Gear Post 25 Dec, 2009
From: jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj)
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 22:40:15 +0530
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As coincidence would have it, this landed up in my mailbox today:

http://www.economist.com/blogs/gulliver/2010/01/americas_snarling_doormen?Fsrc=glvrnwl

The full column:

http://www.economist.com/world/unitedstates/displaystory.cfm?story_id=15270716

Cheers
Jayanand

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Frank Dernie
<Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com> wrote:
> I have some very good friends, and two cousins in the US, I have visited 
> often and we are going to DC in April to celebrate my 60th birthday by 
> visiting friends and family. I hope everything will be plain sailing. 
> These security guys are doing a job not everybody wants and they are 
> probably neither well paid nor well educated. There is a lot of ignorance. 
> I must say, if I had not got the tickets already I would reconsider the 
> trip.
> I would say that of all the countries I have visited the US officials are 
> the least knowledgeable and most insular. There is a clear impression that 
> they think you are being granted a great privilege being allowed access to 
> their country. Probably extreme nationalism taught in school :-)
> Frank
>
> On 19 Jan, 2010, at 02:58, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote:
>
>> I have stopped going to the USA - my last trip was in 2002, and
>> barring emergencies, or traveling to Galapagos which I plan to do
>> sometime, that will be my last. Could not stand the paranoid and
>> intrusive visa and security authorities, and the shoddy and demeaning
>> treatment meted out to my wife and myself. No reason we have to put up
>> with that. You cannot change the system, you can only vote with your
>> feet.
>> Cheers
>> Jayanand
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 3:26 AM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at 
>> gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hmm, I think that all of our business and leisure travel dollars will be
>>> redirected to Europe and Asia over USA and Canada for the foreseeable
>>> future. We see some of the restrictions implemented as security ?to be
>>> arbitrary, overly intrusive, unpleasant and unreasonable while not
>>> necessarily being effective. When was the last time an Aussie carried
>>> anything more dangerous than Vegemite into LAX?
>>> Just my apply for permission in advance, three hours prior to departure
>>> queued, double security procedured, carry on xrayed and pulled apart,
>>> suitcases unlocked to save the thieves some inconvenience, liquid
>>> restricted, questioned, through clothing body scanned, metal detected,
>>> patted down, jet lagged two cents worth.
>>>
>>> Geoff
>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>>
>>>
>>> 2010/1/19 philippe.amard <philippe.amard at sfr.fr>
>>>
>>>> Superb photos (with the latest gear).
>>>>
>>>> And it is now settled, I'll be flying SNCF this year again.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the link Steve
>>>> Amiti?s
>>>> Philippe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Le 18 janv. 10 ? 21:19, Steve Barbour a ?crit :
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://luminous-landscape.com/essays/flying-jan-10.shtml
>>>>>
>>>>>
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