Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/01/11
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I got the 40mm VC finder which of course fits the 20mm lens perfectly. However, I have decided to get the EVF for use with Leica lenses. So far I really like the results. I think the high ISO performance of the GF-1 is better than that of the E3. Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog On Jan 11, 2010, at 7:03 PM, Richard Taylor wrote: > Steve - Right. GF-1, 20mm pancake lens, 35mm Voightlander optical finder, > single point autofocus only. Use it like a rangefinder camera: put the > desired focus point in the center of the optical finder, half press the > shutter, wait for the lens to go zzzzttt, reframe and shoot. I find that > this process is at least as accurate on average in dim light as an M > rangefinder and about twice as fast. The optical finder is from > Cameraquest. > > I use my Leica lenses on the G-1, manually focus and frame in the finder, > look above the camera to shoot in any kind of dynamic situation. My > favorite lenses on the G-1 are the 28 Summicron and 50 Summicron, though > since I got the GF-1 and 20mm lens, the G-1 has been sitting in a drawer. > With f2.0 lenses I generally don't bother with the focus magnifier. > > Regards, > > Dick > > > > On Jan 11, 2010, at 12:13 PM, Steve Barbour wrote: > >> >> On Jan 11, 2010, at 7:16 AM, Richard Taylor wrote: >> >>> Joe - I know you were asking Henning, but since I have both, I thought >>> I'd comment as well. I got the GF-1 specifically so I could use an >>> optical finder with the Lumix 20mm pancake lens. It's a great >>> combination. You can't easily use an optical finder on the G-1. I use >>> the G-1 with my Leica lenses, use the EVF for focus and framing, and >>> open my left eye to decide the moment of exposure. >>> >>> They're both great cameras but enough different in use to have both. >> >> >> so GF1, Pana 20/1.7, optical VF, sounds wonderful...assume only for auto >> focus... >> >> >> do you use any Leica M lenses with manual focus? what's best in that >> situation? where did you get the optical VF, >> >> Dick...? which one? >> >> >> thanks, >> >> >> Steve >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Dick >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jan 11, 2010, at 7:15 AM, joe leung wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Henning, >>>> >>>> I have the G1 and love it's EVF. Is GF1 so much better than the G1 as >>>> to warrant trading up? >>>> >>>> Best Regards, >>>> Joe Leung >>>> (Still in Hong Kong) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> From: Henning Wulff <henningw at archiphoto.com> >>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>> Sent: Sun, January 10, 2010 4:38:55 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] more on the GF-1, the finder, and a portrait of an >>>> artist >>>> >>>> It's quite easy to focus manually. With the latest software you can set >>>> it to magnify the image with one press of the multifunction wheel, so >>>> you do that when you focus and then touch the shutter button lightly to >>>> get back to composing. It's really quite quick and smooth. You can do >>>> it fairly decently with the back screen as well as the electronic >>>> viewfinder. The EV is fairly coarse, so while focussing is actuall >>>> quite easy and possible, it doesn't give you the confidence a higher >>>> resolution screen would give. The coarseness of the screen might be >>>> related to the size of the viewfinder, since the better viewfinder of >>>> the Olympus EP-2 is a lot bigger, making the camera fairly clumsy in my >>>> opinion. Neither are as good as the electronic viewfinder in the G1, so >>>> if you're mainly interested in using an electronic viewfinder you're >>>> probably best off getting the G1, which with lens isn't any bigger than >>>> the GF-1 with electronic viewfinder in every dimension, and >>>> you get a better and integrated viewfinder and a swiveling LCD. >>>> >>>> I use the 20/1.7 (since October) mostly with the GF-1 with the VC >>>> mini-28-35 finder, and sometimes Leica lenses from 35 on up. The >>>> shorter lenses haven't produced satisfactory results, and now that I >>>> have the 20 haven't been as important. >>>> >>>> I especially like the 50 ASPH; easy to focus, high speed and a good >>>> portrait length without being too big. The 75/1.4 is also excellent, >>>> but starts being a bit of a handful. The interesting thing is that as >>>> you stop down, the view through the viewfinder doesn't get darker but >>>> the dof increases. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Jan 9, 2010, at 10:20 AM, Nathan Wajsman wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Wonderful, Kyle. By coincidence, I received my GF-1 today and have >>>>>> tested it a bit this afternoon, inside a bar and on the street. Very >>>>>> pleasant indeed. I got it with the 1.7/20mm lens too, but I also have >>>>>> the M-MFT adapter, so tomorrow I will test it with my M lenses. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> this all sounds like a very attractive combination, especially with >>>>> the Pana 20mm 1.7 lens. If you use it with the electronic viewfinder, >>>>> adapter, and manual focus M lenses, how easy is focussing through the >>>>> viewfinder? compared to the LCD screen ? Is focussing easy enough to >>>>> attract people who care to frequently use their leica M lenses with >>>>> manual focus? >>>>> >>>>> thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Steve >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Nathan >>>>>> >>>>>> Nathan Wajsman >>>>>> Alicante, Spain >>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu >>>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu >>>>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com >>>>>> >>>>>> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 >>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >>>>>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 9, 2010, at 5:44 PM, Kyle Cassidy wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm finding the GF-1 with the 20mm f 1.7 an awesome ... really, >>>>>>> substitute for what I used to use my Leica for. Though it gets noisy >>>>>>> at 400 asa, the lens is fast enough and sharp enough that I'm >>>>>>> finding it not difficult to shoot in relatively low light situations >>>>>>> at 100 or 200 ASA and for on-the-fly portraits, it's been fabulous >>>>>>> -- two photos of the painter John Ennis (www.johnennis.com) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.kylecassidy.com/lj/2010/john-ennis-1.jpg >>>>>>> http://www.kylecassidy.com/lj/2010/john-ennis-2.jpg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I really like having JUST A CAMERA in my _pocket_. It seems when I >>>>>>> leave the house with the Leica d700 I'm always thinking "well, I >>>>>>> need to take the 85 1.8 because it's an awesome lens. but it's too >>>>>>> telephoto for a lot of stuff, so i'd better take a mid range zoom. >>>>>>> Oh, and heck, the room might be crowded, so I'd better bring the >>>>>>> fisheye, cause it's small and all. Heck, if I'm bringing that I >>>>>>> should bring a flash, and I can't bring the flash without the cable, >>>>>>> because on camera flash blows......" and now my back hurts. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The electronic viewfinder (i wanted to do a macro through the lens >>>>>>> but it's not in the cards) isn't a gimic -- its really useful. I >>>>>>> MUCH MUCH MUCH prefer shooting through a viewfinder to using the >>>>>>> screen on the back of the camera, i'd consider the finder part of >>>>>>> the camera (i.e. don't get one without the other). it's a low >>>>>>> resolution LCD but it's fine for composing, you know what the scene >>>>>>> looks like (if you forget, just open your other eye). i don't think >>>>>>> an optical finder will work nearly as well, because you have your >>>>>>> exposure and FOCUS info in the electronic finder as well and you >>>>>>> needs that. you can also change the angle of the finder and look >>>>>>> straight down into it if you'd like, useful for shooting straight up >>>>>>> or around corners (you can totally hold the camera around a corner >>>>>>> and look through the finder -- i don't know why you would, but you >>>>>>> can). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> it's surprisingly loud. the shutter goes off with a "CLICK" you can >>>>>>> feel, seriously, it's like a tiny mousetrap went off inside the >>>>>>> camera. by default focus is also acknowledged by a chirp (you can >>>>>>> turn off sounds). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> and it's FAST, like a lot faster than i can wind and shoot a leica >>>>>>> (you can probably kick it's butt with a rapidwinder, but you won't >>>>>>> accidentally stab yourself in the leg with this one. This really is >>>>>>> the digital LikaLeica I've been waiting for. It just needs a couple >>>>>>> of stickers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am totally listening to Led Zeppelin IV right now. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> kc >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> -- >>>> * Henning J. 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