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Subject: [Leica] IMG: Afghanistan followup
From: jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 07:55:24 +0530
References: <732E59D3-A846-4AA0-832A-F46E330D8360@mac.com> <3B067229-09FE-4F66-9CD7-D1ADEDDEE098@frozenlight.eu> <0101202F-7674-4CDA-B2E0-B980A64F195B@aotera.org> <A1F420E3-AE07-428A-AE66-ECC7B95FAE42@mac.com> <F2B3D732-C50A-430D-AF9E-A9B8963A30CB@aotera.org>

Spencer,
Beautiful shot. The Karakoram is a very difficult place, it is
actually a high altitude desert.
Cheers
Jayanand

On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 11:12 PM, Spencer Cheng <spencer at aotera.org> wrote:
> Hi George,
>
> I am not a historian. To me, if I look at recent history, it is rare for 
> democracy to be successfully imposed externally. Even when it has been 
> successfully imposed (Japan, post-WWII), democracy was transformed. 
> Democracy is very malleable and can be instantiated in many different 
> forms which some people may not classify as democracy. :)
>
> Nathan,
>
> Walls never work. The Great Wall didn't work. The Maginot Line didn't 
> either. We are dealing with a global clash of cultures and religions. My 
> opinions only of course. :)
>
> But we are drifting way off topic so this is my last comment on this topic 
> here.
>
> To get back to Leica photography, this 
> (need-to-be-rescanned-now-that-I-have-IT8-target) picture (K64/M4P/35 
> pre-asph Sumicron) near Passu on the Karakoram Highway in the far northern 
> part of Pakistan. The peaks across the valley are quite high, probably 
> around 6000-7000M high. The road you see curving around the bottom is the 
> KKH, the main, and only, road to China built at a cost of approximately 
> one life per kilometre. It is, at best, a 2-lane road.
>
> <http://www.aotera.org/tmp/Scan-070514-0057.jpg>
>
> Regards,
> Spencer
>
> On Jan 3, 2010, at 13:36, George Lottermoser wrote:
>
>> Thank you for your thoughtful and real observations Spencer.
>>
>> Do you think it realistic
>> for outside cultures (British, Russian, now U.S.)
>> to arrive uninvited
>> and attempt to deliver democracy (or any other form of governance) to 
>> these areas
>> (with guns in hand)?
>> especially when you point out the previous failures.
>>
>
>
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In reply to: Message from photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman) ([Leica] IMG: Afghanistan followup)
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Message from imagist3 at mac.com (George Lottermoser) ([Leica] IMG: Afghanistan followup)
Message from spencer at aotera.org (Spencer Cheng) ([Leica] IMG: Afghanistan followup)