Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/05/03
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]And I respect your opinion Gene; as you're discussing the aesthetic and technical aspects of the image from your own perspective. You didn't refer to the model as a slut; or question the photographer's intentions; or bring your personal moral judgement to the image. Regards, George Lottermoser george at imagist.com http://www.imagist.com http://www.imagist.com/blog http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist On May 3, 2009, at 9:26 AM, grduprey at mchsi.com wrote: > > > George, > > > I enjoy nude photos just as much as the next guy. However, I find > nothing good about this photo at all. The composition, exposure, > pose are all bad, a bad snapshot in my opinion. It gets its value > from who took it and the subject, and nothing else. To me it is a > bad snapshot by a famous photographer. > > > Gene > -------------- Original message from George Lottermoser > <imagist3 at mac.com>: -------------- > > >> Well said Douglas. >> I find the knee jerk, negative reaction to blatant human sexuality, >> paradoxically, both understandable [because of cultural taboos] and >> odd [because of my personal appreciation of beauty]. >> >> Does anyone think this is not a a well composed rectangular frame of >> a beautiful young woman in her prime? >> I assume that if she wore jeans some, who object, would find it a >> beautiful photograph. >> So does it come down to "we're not supposed to see [or be shown] >> human genitals in photographs?" >> It's okay to photograph the horrors of war but not the beauty of >> sexuality and human desire? >> Then take the judgement so far as to judge the model a "slut?" >> >> If this image were a beautiful drawing or painting would some of the >> objectors have a less prudish reaction? >> Most painters and sculptors, we now admire as historically "best," >> have similar poses in their body of work. >> Is the photographic medium just too "real" for reality? >> >> Regards, >> George Lottermoser >> george at imagist.com >> http://www.imagist.com >> http://www.imagist.com/blog >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist >> >> On May 1, 2009, at 6:46 AM, Douglas Barry wrote: >> >>> >>> "Frank Filippone" wrote >>>> $37.5K is cheap? >>>> >>>> I am jealous... I wish I could sell some garbage photos for this >>>> kind of cash....... forget the topic of a nude..... >>>> >>>> I have seen a lot of stuff that I consider garbage, in collections >>>> like the Getty, MOMA, and others. Big prints, probably big >>>> bucks. I really wonder if art collectors and gallery owners, and >>>> Museums actually have anyone on staff that knows the difference >>>> between something worthwhile and something that is worthless... >>>> worthless in the sense of intrinsic value, qualitative value, or >>>> otherwise quality in general. >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> Sorry, have to disagree. >>> >>> People decide what moves them, and what to pay for it. What one >>> person likes may not necessarily be liked by you or I, but, for the >>> person who buys it, it may pull a certain string in their heart. >>> The fact that the price reached 37.5k was not just driven by the >>> image but also by the combination of the Friedlander & Ciccione >>> names, just as the presence of an Olympic recordholder adds lustre >>> & price to a sports image: a similar image of a club athlete at a >>> small local sports event would not necessarily have the same cachet >>> or price. >>> >>> Anyway, I liked the confrontational composition which we all seem >>> to agree was confrontational :-) >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Douglas >>> _________ >>> Douglas Barry >>> Bray, Co. Wicklow >>> Republic of Ireland >>> >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/DouglasBray/MiguelGeary.jpg.html >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information