Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/05/01

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Subject: [Leica] 8 or 8.2
From: abridge at gmail.com (Adam Bridge)
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 20:05:05 -0700
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Wow - I didn't know that, John. Thanks for a very useful posting.
Adam

On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 7:54 PM, John Collier <jbcollier at shaw.ca> wrote:

> All recent film Ms and M8
>
> - inside framelines at minimum focus
> - outside edge at aproximately 2 m
> - roughly three frameline widths extra all round at infinity
>
> Naturally this varies with focal length with longer lens showing greater
> variance.
>
> John
>
>
> On 1-May-09, at 8:41 PM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote:
>
>  John, I understood that the change in the M8.2 is to the setup in your
>> film
>> M rather than the frame lines approximating the framing at the minimum
>> focus
>> distance. Of course they are not identical to the Film M's; different
>> sets,
>> different magnifications.
>>
>> 2009/5/2 John Collier <jbcollier at shaw.ca>
>>
>>  I prefer the M8 framelines as they are the same as all my film Ms,
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1-May-09, at 8:32 PM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote:
>>>
>>> Henning, the frame line difference is personal preference, I'm sure. As
>>> is
>>>
>>>> the importance of the 1/8000 setting and the quieter shutter. Yours is
>>>> the
>>>> first expressed preference for the M8 frame lines over the M8.2 that I
>>>> have
>>>> read. As you say, you adjust to what you have. 'More accurate
>>>> framelines'
>>>> from me was just meant to indicate the different setup. I guess I need
>>>> to
>>>> choose my words more carefully ;-)
>>>> Leica presumably was responding to expressed preferences when they
>>>> changed
>>>> to the new arrangement.
>>>> I wish that they would run the discounted upgrade programme over here. I
>>>> guess this is a Leica USA initiative? In Aus an M8.2 new is double the
>>>> (discounted) price of the M8 new now. Any M8 service at all and any
>>>> upgrade
>>>> all goes to Solms.
>>>>
>>>> 2009/5/2 Henning Wulff <henningw at archiphoto.com>
>>>>
>>>> Goes to show that personal preferences are what count. I'd pay maybe $5
>>>>
>>>>> more for an M8.2, figuring that the pluses of the 8.2 pretty much
>>>>> balance
>>>>> the lack of 1/8000sec.
>>>>>
>>>>> To add to that. The 'more accurate framelines' belong to the M8, as
>>>>> that
>>>>> shows what you get at minimum focus. The 8.2 framelines show what you
>>>>> get
>>>>> between minimum and infinity.
>>>>>
>>>>> For accurate framing I like a view camera or a digital P&S or dslr with
>>>>> LiveView. With the M8, like any other Leica RF, you get used to the
>>>>> parameters, and then work with that.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> At 6:07 PM -0500 5/1/09, David Keenan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there any REALLY good reason to pass on an M8 demo and
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  hold out for the 8.2?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Ric --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Geoff
>>>>>> 'Breathe In, Breathe Out, Move On'
>>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/
>>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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Replies: Reply from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] 8 or 8.2)
In reply to: Message from hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson) ([Leica] 8 or 8.2)
Message from jbcollier at shaw.ca (John Collier) ([Leica] 8 or 8.2)
Message from hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson) ([Leica] 8 or 8.2)
Message from jbcollier at shaw.ca (John Collier) ([Leica] 8 or 8.2)