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Subject: [Leica] NEW STUFF : SIGN OF THE TMES. COLOUR OR b&w
From: chs2018 at med.cornell.edu (Chris Saganich)
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 17:41:10 -0400
References: <F240937F-EEC5-4661-92CE-6F15DDA7045A@cox.net> <79pc8o$316cvf@pd6mo1no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca> <a3f189160904071231r307c225bq958baf96f3ac429b@mail.gmail.com>

My first reaction was disappointment that Ted shot such an image.  My 
American capitalistic indoctrination making the assumption Ted was hanging 
a sign of ignorant on the homeless.  Then I thought, na he's Canadian,  so 
I reinterpreted the image from a more socialist perspective suggesting 
homelessness is the end result when education isn't supported by 
society.  Then I thought most homelessness has nothing to do with 
education, rather a mental health issue, or in the U.S. a problem of 
unhealthy perspective.  In Canada the homeless are healthier so it is just 
that they have a radical perspective rather then an unhealthy one.


At 03:31 PM 4/7/2009, you wrote:
>I really haven't been following this thread, though I was surprised to see
>it as an issue from your camera.
>
>My code on things like this is to not shoot them. It is low hanging fruit
>and easy to steer a viewer's mind to a conclusion that may be in error.  We
>don't know if the pair featured are ignorant or educated, so it is kind of
>like pinning a sign to their backs.
>
>In the large version, the guy in the chair could very well be Ric Carter,
>and the guy on the ground Kyle Cassidy (who we all know uses a grocery cart
>as a gadget bag, since he carries all kinds of crap with him on a shoot.)
>
>The sign gets in the way and  too bad, because it could have been a pretty
>good picture.
>
>Sonny
>
>
>
>On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> > Hi Steve,
> >
> > I'm sure the wording on the building to the right is the most important
> > these days tied into the two fellows in the middle as a story telling
> > picture. And that's what caught the eye in the story telling point.
> >
> >
> >
> > That of course may not be what others see, but that's lfe in the fast 
> > lane
> > of photojournalism. And photo editors. :-) Lifes always been like that. 
> > :-)
>
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