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Subject: [Leica] IMG's plus advice needed - Guy, girl, bokeh
From: hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:57:54 +1000
References: <CA487076-52A2-486D-88C5-0DC860728E22@depaul.edu>

Hi Bob. I just shot this for you, including some out of focus highlight
areas for you too. Apologies to the Friday people for the subject matter.
This is the current Summilux , close to minimum focus distance (.7m) and
f/2.  Well worth getting used to the different feel of the focus ring, in my
opinion. This is the best fast 50 you can buy right now regarding correction
and lack of focus shift. It costs a lot. The new Nocti shares some of its
design, I understand. It costs two arms and a leg.
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/a/ns/KG.jpg.html
Against the light on dilute XTOLed film it does this.
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/a/Vic/MV27.jpg.html
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/a/lf/B01.jpg.html
2009/3/25 bob palmieri <rpalmier at depaul.edu>

> Folks -
>
> After looking at George Lottermoser's wildlife shot on his blog I figured
> I'd post a couple of Humans from last week.  In contrast to the birds, I
> don't feel like color is particularly necessary for determining gender:
> Guy -
> http://www.pbase.com/bobsworld/image/110451982
> Girl -
> http://www.pbase.com/bobsworld/image/110451983
> (Feel free to deliver comments, admonishments or jocular banter as needed.)
> Both shot with my  daily M6 - 50 'Lux - Tmax 400 in Xtol rig.  Used to be
> pretty happy with this setup, but there seems to be an issue that I can no
> longer ignore.
> I threw these up a few days ago and noticed that the "Girl" shot gets twice
> as many views as the "Guy" shot.  Must be the 50 (late spherical) 'lux's
> Lemon Bokeh, which is all over the "Guy" shot.
> First of all, I'd like to know what causes this.  Is it a comatic effect,
> an image of the aperture off-axis or something else?  I guess it doesn't
> really matter too much, 'cuz it's clearly Here to Stay with this lens
> design.
> I hesitate to bring up a topic such as this, but I'm really interested in
> hearing some opinions on Fast Fiftys for M's.
> I basically like almost everything about my late-spherical 50 version.
>  These aspects include close focussing to 0.7m, terrific ergonomics on the
> very-lightly-damped rings (with the fast-racking helical on the focus ring 
> I
> can beat most autofocus setups in dim light.)  I wanna know if there's a 
> 1.4
> (or 1.5) 50 that can keep up with most of these qualities (as well as high
> contrast and low flare wide open plus acceptable focus shift ).
>
> The Nocti's are out due to weight and cost.  The versions of the Leica
> aspherical I've tried had much stiffer focussing (and I probably can't
> afford one of those either.)  So I guess it's all about Zeiss (new or old),
> Voigtlander and Canon or Nikon LTM's.
> But if I can't find something else I may well become a member of the
> Bokeh-After-the Fact club.
>
> Bob Palmieri
>
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-- 
Cheers
Geoff
'Life's too short for mediocre glass'
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/a/
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman


Replies: Reply from kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour) ([Leica] IMG's plus advice needed - Guy, girl, bokeh)
In reply to: Message from rpalmier at depaul.edu (bob palmieri) ([Leica] IMG's plus advice needed - Guy, girl, bokeh)