Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/02/16

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Subject: [Leica] Re: Cheaper Leica
From: mak at teleport.com (Mark Kronquist)
Date: Mon Feb 16 23:09:12 2009
References: <200902170300.n1H30IaS007669@server1.waverley.reid.org> <7875AF61-89CE-4F46-B685-BFE10DE1B82D@optonline.net> <36172e5a0902162241h19c3de47h7b79ac76190bf796@mail.gmail.com>

I have actually tried to homebrew M backs with VERY poor results from  
MF 4MB Sensors mounted on M back doors as tethered units....
On Feb 16, 2009, at 10:41 PM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote:

> Larry, I think your design concept is safe from any patent  
> infringement!
> OK, put down that 6th triple espresso and back away from the  
> keyboard slowly
> ;-)
> We have a saying over here commonly used in a friendly way... Don't  
> give up
> your day job ;-) ;-)
>
> 2009/2/17 Lawrence Zeitlin <lrzeitlin@optonline.net>
>
>>
>> On Feb 16, 2009, at 10:00 PM, Geoff wrote:
>>
>> The 'CL of digital' seems to have popular support on the internet  
>> forums.
>>> It
>>> certainly sounds like Leica are hinting in that direction. I  
>>> don't see
>>> what
>>> you could remove from the M8 design to make it much simpler  
>>> though. If
>>> that
>>> is so, you need a much cheaper to manufacture body with an M  
>>> mount. If
>>> that
>>> means an EVF I think it would lose its rangefinder essence.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Not necessarily. The CL cost much less than the M series Leicas to  
>> produce.
>> They sold retail for about 1/3 the price. I bought one new in 1970  
>> for less
>> than $400 USD. While I have no definitive knowledge, I suspect  
>> that the bulk
>> of of the cost of the M8 comes from the mechanical and optical  
>> parts. With a
>> digital CL using the mass marketed mini 4/3 components, it could  
>> sell for
>> considerably less than the M8 yet still use an optical RF system.  
>> It all
>> depends on whether Leica is making enough money from selling a  
>> small number
>> of expensive M8s or wants to broaden its base by selling many more  
>> cheaper
>> digital CLs. Remember that Leica killed the CL because it was  
>> selling too
>> many of them and felt that it was cannibalizing sales of the M  
>> cameras.
>> Perhaps Konica Minolta still has the tooling tucked away in some  
>> warehouse.
>>
>> Alternatively Leica, or another supplier, could retrofit existing  
>> M cameras
>> for digital photography by making a 4/3 digital sensor module to  
>> replace the
>> inspection door in the back and incorporate digital electronics in a
>> somewhat enlarged base plate. Everything else is already there,  
>> the shutter,
>> the range finder and the view finder. You would have to advance  
>> the "film"
>> normally to cock the shutter. In addition to extending the useful  
>> life of a
>> generation of film cameras, the original back door could be  
>> replaced to use
>> film if desired.
>>
>> Leica, you can have my suggestion without a fee. I'll even let you  
>> have a
>> couple of M3s to modify digitally, as long as I can get them back.
>>
>> Larry Z
>>
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>
>
>
> -- 
> Cheers
> Geoff
> 'Licence to Chill'
>
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Replies: Reply from hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson) ([Leica] Re: Cheaper Leica)
In reply to: Message from lrzeitlin at optonline.net (Lawrence Zeitlin) ([Leica] Re: Cheaper Leica)
Message from hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson) ([Leica] Re: Cheaper Leica)