Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/01/21
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Mitch, how will this petition be presented to Leica? Can you assure this list that the LUG as a whole will not be presented as sponsoring or supporting your petition? That would only reduce our credibility with Leica as a group of Leica enthusiasts and supporters, in my opinion. Are you responding to anything on this list or have you just duplicated your postings to the L Camera forum? Seems reasonable that you would talk to us here if you expect any support. How are entries sorted or managed? Who makes that decision? Looking at the list you can see are quite a number of anonymous entries and duplicate names. For example after your own initial entry, someone has added your name as a supporter of a Ricoh camera. I'd be annoyed to read that someone had misrepresented me. As you noted there are a number of false entries attributed to names like Barnack, Zeiss, Gandy, Kobayashi. Those are obviously false but what correction is possible when someone chooses to use another's name? Can people remove their entry if they decide they no longer want to be associated with the list or someone has used their name without permission? Is it true that a PayPal payment window pops up if an entry is made? 2009/1/22 <mitcha@mac.com> > After being up for 24 hours, the petition has been signed by 144 people, > after deducting 14 prank signatures. Here are some of the comments posted: > > The price of owning Leica digital gear is already through the roof. Many >> people will sacrifice a lot to get a M8, but then all they can afford is >> second-hand Leica lenses. The cost and the hassle of having them coded is >> totally unncessary and unjustified, and perceived by many as an abusive >> way >> for Leica to pump as much money as possible from the pockets of their >> customers. >> >> Own M2, M8 and a variety of coded Leica lenses. I do not really want to >> modify my non-coded Leica lenses (by machining or replacement of the >> flange). It just seems criminal to defile such masterpieces. So please >> include a manual lens selection in the firmware. >> >> I cannot work without my Leica lenses long enough to send them to be >> coded. >> >> I own an MP and six lenses, none of which are coded. The expense of >> coding, as well as the risk of shipping damage/loss is the main reason I >> have not bought an M8. The ability to use old lenses on a digital camera >> is >> very appealing to me. >> >> Excellent update idea for an excellent camera. >> >> I stay in Singapore. Its takes at least 1month to code lenses. Its not >> possible for me to do it, as result I need to use 3rd party software to >> fix >> it (cornerfix) >> >> I?am also missing this feature al lot and it is one of the reasons why I >> waited for years to get an M8. I would only invest in a future M9 if it >> also >> - besides lenses - has a lens identification firmware, at least for LEITZ >> and LEICA lenses. >> >> I own an M8, M6, M5, MP, MP3, M3, M2, R9, R4, and SL2, as well as over a >> dozen lenses. I have owned Leicas since 1963. I am heavily committed to >> Leica mentally, emotionally, and financially. I agree that Leica AG would >> serve the interests of its numerous R8 customers by making lens >> identification in software an alternative to having their lenses coded by >> Leica AG. I cannot think of a good reason for Leica AG not to offer this >> option if it has any sense of responsibility to its loyal customers, as I >> believe and trust that it does. >> >> I support making Leica M8 firmware possible ti identify the Leica lens >> attached -- rather than coding at $175 for each lense. >> >> i done it. If you in Asia, its takes at least 1month to code anything, so >> there is no way i can do it. >> >> I own and use M8 extensively, and it is a great camera! Adding this in the >> firmware would be of great help, I will not send any lenses for coding >> anyway because of costs and waiting time... >> >> I own and enjoy using an M8, an M6 ttl, and eight different lenses. For >> financial and logistical reasons (pita factor), of these, only three have >> been coded. Several viable hand-coding solutions have proliferated over >> the >> course of the M8s lifespan, which have already largely eliminated any >> economic in incentive for not implementing a firmware-based means for lens >> identification. >> >> I have been a loyal Leica customer for 20 years, and I feel this is the >> least Leica can do. >> >> Please implement this option as it makes tremendous sense, or explain very >> carefully why this cannot be done. >> >> I do have many Leica lenses and 3 Zeiss. I do not have over 1000 Euro to >> spend in coding all those lenses. >> > > > ?Mitch/Potomac, MD > http://www.flickr.com/photos/malland/sets/72157594271568487/ > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- Cheers Geoff Life's too short for slow zooms