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Subject: [Leica] Found on e-Bay
From: sethrosner at nycap.rr.com (Seth Rosner)
Date: Sat Jan 17 06:34:37 2009
References: <682608.77240.qm@web55906.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Ball, the brief answer is, yes indeed, Lluis' webpage was moved somewhere. 
Electronically. Onto an eBay auction site. For the benefit of the taker. 
Without permission. Your public library analogy has no relationship to this 
matter. No one has suggested that Lluis doesn't want his photos looked at. 
You've simply missed the point.

-30-

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "H. Ball Arche" <h_arche@yahoo.com>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Found on e-Bay


> Seth wrote:
> "It is very wrong indeed to take
> someone else's work without permission"
>
> Well, you'd have to explain to me how anything has been taken. Was Lluis's 
> webpage hijacked and moved somewhere? Did someone present his pictures as 
> their own?
>
> It's as if, standing in a public library I told someone 'if you go two 
> rows over and three shelves down you'll find a really great book full of 
> maps of India', or 'drive by 1234 Maple street in Maxwell House New York 
> and you'll see a prime example of Prairie Architecture'.
>
> Nobody has taken anything - someone has simply made the benefits of their 
> research available. That's just what the Web does.
>
> If you don't want strangers looking at your pictures, DON"T PUT THEM ON 
> THE WEB. Or, if you want to have at least some limited control, post them 
> in a place like the LUG gallery, which Brian has made to be 
> non-searchable.
>
>
> --- On Sat, 1/17/09, Seth Rosner <sethrosner@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Seth Rosner <sethrosner@nycap.rr.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Found on e-Bay
>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Date: Saturday, January 17, 2009, 6:58 AM
>> Sorry to disagree. Strongly. It is very wrong indeed to take
>> someone else's work without permission and, in this
>> case, without even notice to the owner, which Luis is, and
>> use it for one's advantage. The legal term is
>> misappropriation and although it might not be actionable as
>> a practical matter, is it wrong both legally and morally.
>>
>> just my 2c.
>>
>> Seth
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "H. Ball
>> Arche" <h_arche@yahoo.com>
>> To: "Leica Users Group"
>> <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 6:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Found on e-Bay
>>
>>
>> > Personally I don't think the seller has done
>> anything out of line.
>> >
>> > In the last few years whenever I've gone to buy a
>> new lens I've researched it by looking at galleries that
>> have the lens I'm interested in as a tag. Effectively,
>> when you put that gallery together as being shot with that
>> lens, you created a sort of billboard for it in a very
>> public place.
>> >
>> > I don't think you should expect to be asked for
>> permission if somebody else wants to make a link to your
>> site, although it would have been nice had he given you a
>> credit line in his ebay listing.
>> >
>> >
>> > --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Lluis Ripoll
>> <luisripoll@telefonica.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> From: Lluis Ripoll
>> <luisripoll@telefonica.net>
>> >> Subject: [Leica] Found on e-Bay
>> >> To: "Leica Users Group"
>> <lug@leica-users.org>
>> >> Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 3:25 PM
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> I've saw this on e-bay, a Cooke Amotal like
>> mine:
>> >>
>> >>
>> http://cgi.ebay.es/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310115966255
>> >>
>> >> On the advertising it is a link showing the
>> pictures with
>> >> this lens, I saw it... and this is my Gallery with
>> this
>> >> lens!, please look at "Please visit this
>> link..."
>> >>
>> >>  http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=848443
>> >>
>> >> What do you think? it is correct ?
>> >>
>> >> Of course internet is a open window to the
>> world...., but I
>> >> didn't expect this...
>> >>
>> >> Saludos cordiales
>> >> Lluis
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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