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Subject: [Leica] OT: Audiophile Question
From: scheng at aotera.org (Spencer Cheng)
Date: Thu Jan 15 10:55:24 2009
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Hi Len,

The TosLink cables are the same regardless whether it is used to carry  
standard CD-audio or SACD data stream (if I believe in Wikipedia). The  
difference is the protocol used by the 2 ends. I am using a Blu-Ray  
player with digital out as my CD player because there aren't THAT much  
difference in the audio decoders to my aging ears (and it takes up 1/2  
the space of a separate CD player and reduce the number of wires by 2  
which pleases my other half tremendously :).

Regards,
Spencer

On Jan 15, 2009, at 12:01, Leonard Taupier wrote:

> Spencer,
>
> TosLink cables are fine for a conventional CD player but doesn't  
> work with SACD disks because of the proprietary digital format. If  
> this has changed in the last four years please let me know. Also  
> some CD players may not even have a digital output jack. I have  
> TosLinks of different lengths but don't use them.
>
> You are certainly right about the phono, preamp, power amp chain.  I  
> use a low output Koetsu moving coil cartridge, a separate phono  
> preamp, a tube preamp and a tube power amp. The cables do sound  
> different. But I don't go all out. You reach a point where the  
> increase in cost can't be justified by a minute improvement, if any,  
> in sound quality. Fortunately my dealer allowed me to try and return  
> any cable I wanted.
>
> Len
>
>
> On Jan 15, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Spencer Cheng wrote:
>
>> For digital source such as CD player or digital TV signals, use a  
>> TosLink cable which keeps it digital into the (pre-)amp. No  
>> interference issues. No shielding or ground issues are likely.
>>
>> Especially with TosLink cables, Monster Cable would be a waste of  
>> money. It's a hunk of passive fibre optic cable with a simple  
>> connector at both end. It would postpone the conversion to the  
>> analog domain as far as possible. Available at my local PC shop for  
>> $5-$10.
>>
>> For vinyl or pre-amp to power amp where it is analog, the sky is  
>> the limit as long as one can hear the difference in a double blind  
>> test.... :)
>>

Replies: Reply from len-001 at verizon.net (Leonard Taupier) ([Leica] OT: Audiophile Question)
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Message from len-001 at verizon.net (Leonard Taupier) ([Leica] OT: Audiophile Question)
Message from gregj_lorenzo at hotmail.com (Greg Lorenzo) ([Leica] OT: Audiophile Question)
Message from len-001 at verizon.net (Leonard Taupier) ([Leica] OT: Audiophile Question)
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Message from len-001 at verizon.net (Leonard Taupier) ([Leica] OT: Audiophile Question)
Message from reid at mejac.palo-alto.ca.us (Brian Reid) ([Leica] OT: Audiophile Question)
Message from scheng at aotera.org (Spencer Cheng) ([Leica] OT: Audiophile Question)
Message from len-001 at verizon.net (Leonard Taupier) ([Leica] OT: Audiophile Question)
Message from scheng at aotera.org (Spencer Cheng) ([Leica] OT: Audiophile Question)
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