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Subject: [Leica] 24mm - too close to 28mm?
From: hoppyman at bigpond.net.au (Geoff Hopkinson)
Date: Sat Jan 3 14:37:00 2009
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1.33
But the original poster said he wanted the new lens for an M8. Besides
people can do the mental maths!
One thing that I have noticed is that I don't have to have exactly the same
field of view as I got with film Ms. You just frame your shot a little
differently. Its just a mental adjustment.
For example a 21 on the M8 gives the same FoV as a 28 on an M7 but the
photos are not the same. You are just getting a 21mm photo with the edges
cut off. (by Mark's crop circle!) 


Cheers
Geoff
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/e
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/
Pick up your camera and make the best photo you can.

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
Philippe AMARD
Sent: Sunday, 4 January 2009 08:24
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] 24mm - too close to 28mm?

Geoff,

the M8 has a crop facor of ?

so 24 is not 24, and 21 is not ...;
Mark will be yelling at you now.

Amiti?s
Phx, the exclusive R9.2 Diesel waiting pain in the ...on the LUG

Geoff Hopkinson wrote:

>Mark I wrestled with this also. I am shooting with the M8. I have the 
>Summicron 28. I was considering getting a 21 but ended up choosing the 
>24 because I can use the viewfinder when I want without an external one.
>Although it isn't a large focal length difference on paper, I find the 
>28 much better for people shots owing to the different perspective. It 
>is also much more compact. You can replace the lens hood with a much 
>smaller one on the M8 too.
>
>I found the 24 to be the perfect general wide for me for scenery (on 
>the M8), although I have an 18 for when I want to be really expansive.  
>I was loaned the Elmarit M 24 for my recent trip. I actually have the 
>new Elmar 24 on order here (there is just one coming to Australia in the
first shipment).
>Performance wise there looks to be very little practical difference 
>between the two 24s on an M8. Of course the Elmarit is a stop faster. 
>Actually due to special pricing (on the Elmarit) both lenses cost about 
>the same here which is a little crazy. What decided me was the smaller 
>form factor for the Elmar including the hood and the fact that it's 
>46mm which lets me use my universal Pol with it.
>
>
>Cheers
>Geoff
>http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/e
>http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/
>Pick up your camera and make the best photo you can.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org
>[mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf 
>Of Mark Pope
>Sent: Sunday, 4 January 2009 05:18
>To: Leica Users Group
>Subject: [Leica] 24mm - too close to 28mm?
>
>Dear Luggers,
>
>I wonder if you you can help me?  I like the look of the new 24mm lens 
>that Leica have just released.  Finances permitting, I wouldn't mind 
>getting hold of one later on in the year.
>
>It would be used mainly on my M8.  I also have the 28mm Elmarit - a 
>lens that I really like and get on with very well.  My question is 
>whether you feel 24mm is too close to the 28mm?
>
>Any thoughts / advice would be appreciated, as well as any experiences 
>with the new lens.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Mark
>
>P.S.  Happy new year to everyone!
>
>  
>

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In reply to: Message from mark at whitedogs.co.uk (Mark Pope) ([Leica] 24mm - too close to 28mm?)
Message from hoppyman at bigpond.net.au (Geoff Hopkinson) ([Leica] 24mm - too close to 28mm?)
Message from philippe.amard at tele2.fr (Philippe AMARD) ([Leica] 24mm - too close to 28mm?)