Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/12/21

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Subject: [Leica] un-believable
From: dstella1 at ameritech.net (Dante Stella)
Date: Sun Dec 21 15:33:55 2008
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Seth,

I've owned an M8 for close to two years and do 90% of my digital  
shooting with it.  It suits my needs, but it's no surprise to me that  
- like an under-featured car - it does not attract many converts in a  
market driven largely by features.  If you have some product knowledge  
that would change my perspective, I'll listen.

Dante

On Dec 19, 2008, at 7:27 PM, Seth Rosner wrote:

> Dante, with great respect, you utterly disqualify your comment and  
> reveal your lack of knowledge of product by equating the Leica M8 to  
> an (obsolete) Honda Civic. What rubbish.
>
> Seth
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dante Stella" <dstella1@ameritech.net 
> >
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 7:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] un-believable
>
>
>> I don't even think Leica is even in the same class the US auto
>> industry - which has as good technology as anyone's but has been
>> struggling mightily with product mix and cost-effective production.
>> More importantly, the prices are not out of scale.  Leica, on the
>> other hand, doesn't even have the technology - and unless you believe
>> that having Germans assemble it is worth a ton of money,* the prices
>> are way out of line.  The equivalent of an M8 in the automotive world
>> would be building a 1997 Civic and selling it today for $60,000.
>>
>> Dante
>>
>> *Assuming Solms and not Portugal does the work.
>>
>> On Dec 19, 2008, at 6:53 PM, Philip Forrest wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think it's unbelievable, I think it's hilarious for the
>>> cult-ish status symbol. I love Leica's products (the ones I own)  
>>> but I
>>> also think that they, like the US auto industry, are desperate due  
>>> to
>>> lack of innovation and foresight. My M4 will be working long after
>>> Leica is gone and my lenses will as well. I'm happy with that for  
>>> now.
>>> Phil Forrest
>>>
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Replies: Reply from sethrosner at nycap.rr.com (Seth Rosner) ([Leica] un-believable)
In reply to: Message from imagist3 at mac.com (Lottermoser George) ([Leica] un-believable)
Message from photo.forrest at earthlink.net (Philip Forrest) ([Leica] un-believable)
Message from dstella1 at ameritech.net (Dante Stella) ([Leica] un-believable)
Message from sethrosner at nycap.rr.com (Seth Rosner) ([Leica] un-believable)