Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/12/20

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Subject: [Leica] S2 Lenses MTF & Resolutions
From: photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman)
Date: Sat Dec 20 21:34:38 2008
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Frank, one of my friends is a commercial/fashion photographer. You  
have no idea how much money is spent on the photographs in a full-page  
ad or double-page spread that is to appear in a magazine like  
Cosmopolitan or Vanity Fair (I am not talking about my friend's fees,  
but about the total cost of the shoot). The cost of an S2 is petty  
cash in comparison.

Nathan

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On Dec 21, 2008, at 4:57 AM, Frank Filippone wrote:

> My $0.02
>
> Why would a Industrial customer ( including a magazine) want superb  
> image
> quality when the images to be printed, in a magazine or newspaper,   
> are
> 8x11?  Or even 17x11 ( double page spread) ?    Good enough is good
> enough.... and spending more on something no one can see nor the  
> printer can
> print is downright wasteful.  Corporations are not into waste.   
> Portrait
> Pros?  How many portraits ( % of the total portrait market, including
> wedding ) go bigger than 8x10/11x14 and demand quality above  the  
> big time
> Canon or Nikon cameras?  Not much.
>
> ( I will not mention the fact that for really great, really HIGH end
> photography, there still is Film in sizes to 11x14...... ).
>
> I think that the market for the S2 is only one.... well heeled  
> amateurs.
> And Leica is  going after them..........
>
> All the hoopla about extra superb image quality is probably true,  
> and the
> Pro attitude is to convince amateurs that they can achieve that  
> "quality of
> a Pro" by using the S2.  All of which may be true.  But to be really  
> true,
> the Pros would NEED to use the S2 in their jobs.
>
> I doubt it....
>
> We have a bunch of pros on this list.... how many of you NEED to use  
> the top
> rated Hasselblad or Sinar, or whatever cameras to produce images your
> customer base requires?  Canon and Leica DMR or M8 and Nikon need not
> respond...... you are the "normal" quality......
>
> The difference is perception vs need.
>
> Pros... how about a reasonable assessment of your customer  
> base......??????
>
> Need or perception?  What percentage demand quality above all else?   
> Cost be
> of secondary importance..........by far......
>
> Frank Filippone
> red735i@earthlink.net
>
>
> Steve , in my opinion, the purpose of the S2 is to offer a superb  
> medium
> format LEICA system at the top of the quality tree for pros.
>
>
>
>
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