Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/12/10
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Mark, I have gotten better results from my 3.5 Summaron on my IIIf then on my M8. I don't know why this is. I always though my results on film were pretty good. Of course I had nothing to compare it to. In LTM mount the Elmar is not as good and the 2.8 Summaron is a collector's item as only 5000 or so were made. And before I get interrogated on why I don't use CV or Zeiss or any other brand lens, it's because I don't want to. On the M8 I have a much larger selection of lenses to compare to the 3.5 version. In those cases it looks very low contrast to just about any M lens I own. So I will continue to enjoy the lens on my LTM bodies and be very happy with it. Len On Dec 10, 2008, at 6:44 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote: > The f3.5 Summaron is no doubt a different ballgame from the 2.8 but > I will > say I'm not experiencing any lack of contrast with it and is my > most used > lens when shooting LTM which is my main mode of shooting Leica over > the past > several years. Its results do not appear to be all that different > from most > other lenes I've used. Some day I'll be working from top grade > scans from > these negs or a digital M and make 17x22 prints from them but as of > now I'd > recommend these lenes which are handy, accessible, not all that > pricey and > at least "nice" performers. If the Leica fingerprint of this older > design is > there its something which even in the darkroom I'd think would be > dealable > by using a 3 contrast filter instead of a 2.5. Or another minute in > the > developer. When working with scans you never as I said - see it. > I'd not > mind a lens for me to use with some real noticeable different > character. > Fore a different look. A distinctive fingerprint. My f3.5 Summaron > gives me > farily normal results from all I can tell. > > > > mark@rabinergroup.com > Mark William Rabiner > > > >> From: Leonard Taupier <len-001@verizon.net> >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> >> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:37:45 -0500 >> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] M-lenses on M8 - A Question >> >> Seth, >> >> Your review in VF Vol 37 No 4 is very impressive. It's probably the >> most comprehension review of any lens I've ever seen. After you >> mentioned the 2.8 Summaron I went searching the web for it. Yup it's >> gotten up there in price. I wish I had one as that generation of >> Leica lenses give me the look I really like. >> >> Len >> >> >> On Dec 10, 2008, at 5:27 PM, Seth Rosner wrote: >> >>> Greg, it is why eBay prices for the 35/2,8 Summaron have risen >>> recently. The 3/4 sensor eliminates the corner fall-off in both >>> resolution and contrast and reduces to a hardly perceptible minimum >>> this lens' field curvature. Not owning an M8 (yet) I cannot confirm >>> my opinon that this lens will now outperform the 35 Summicrons >>> right up until the ASPH version while preserving the well-known >>> Leica look of the period. The legend that this lens lacks contrast >>> is simply untrue. And stopped down to 5,6, it is not too far from >>> the ASPH version. See VIEWFINDER Vol 37 No 4, pp 39-40. >>> >>> Seth >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Lorenzo" >>> <gregj_lorenzo@hotmail.com> >>> To: "Leica Users Group LUG" <lug@leica-users.org> >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 3:50 PM >>> Subject: RE: [Leica] M-lenses on M8 - A Question >>> >>> >>> >>> The 35 I'd use would have to have the right look (for me). This >>> probably means not the latest version of Leica's current 35mm lens >>> line. >>> >>> Greg Lorenzo >>> Calgary, Canada> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:44:52 -0500> Subject: >>> Re: [Leica] M-lenses on M8 - A Question> From: >>> mark@rabinergroup.com> To: lug@leica-users.org> > If you're used to >>> 50's then with an M8 I'd find a nice 35 to have be your> favorite >>> lens.> 35 * 1.33> = 46.55> > > A 50 gives you 65. Not so much an >>> "all around" lens.> > > > mark@rabinergroup.com> Mark William >>> Rabiner> > > > > From: Alan Magayne-Roshak <amr3@uwm.edu>> > Reply- >>> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>> > Date: Tue, 9 Dec >>> 2008 23:25:52 -0600 (CST)> > To: lug <lug@leica-users.org>> > >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] M-lenses on M8 - A Question> > > > Original >>> Message:> >> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 16:52:43 -0500> >> From: Leonard >>> Taupier <len-001@verizon.net>> > > >> The 50mm collapsible >>> Summicron has absolutely no problem when> >> collapsed on the M8 >>> body. The clearance from the end of the collapsed> >> mount to the >>> M8 shutter is about 1/2". I don't know about the 90mm> >> Elmar. >>> But if you have the lens just measure the distance from the> >> >>> mount to the end of the collapsed lens. The M8 flange to shutter> >>>>> distance is about 31/32". If the collapsed lens is 3/4" or >>> greater> >> from mount to end I probably would not collapse it when >>> on the M8. In> >> any case I have a few collapsible lenses with >>> adequate clearance but> >> always keep them extended as leica >>> recommends. The 90mm macro which> >> Leica says is OK does not >>> extend pass the lens mount at all.> > >>> __________________________________________________________________> >>>> Thanks for the information(Nathan too).> > > > I have collapsible >>> Summicrons in both bayonet and LTM, plus the 90 Elmar> > >>> collapsible, and I use that feature all the time, so I wondered if >>> these would> > work if I won the lottery and was able to get an >>> M8. ;~)> > > > > > Alan> > > > Alan Magayne-Roshak, Senior >>> Photographer> > UPAA POY 1978> > University Information Technology >>> Services> > University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee> > http:// >>> gallery.leica-users.org/v/Alan+Magayne-Roshak/> > > > > > > > > > >>> _______________________________________________> > Leica Users >>> Group.> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>> information> > > > _______________________________________________> >>> Leica Users Group.> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug >>> for more information >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Send e-mail faster without improving your typing skills. >>> http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail? >>> ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_speed_122008 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> -- >>> ---------- >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.16/1841 - Release Date: >>> 12/10/2008 9:30 AM >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information