Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/12/07
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]not if you consider fine detail rendering dynamic range and print size then both bit depth and sensor area size matters a great deal and the same holds true for 35mm vs 120 vs 4x5 vs 8x10 (given that each format is using the same emulsion) Fond regards, George george@imagist.com http://www.imagist.com http://www.imagist.com/blog http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist On Dec 7, 2008, at 11:42 AM, Steve Barbour wrote: > > On Dec 7, 2008, at 3:49 AM, Nathan Wajsman wrote: > >> I went from film to Canon 1.6 sensor to Canon 1.3 sensor to >> Olympus 4/3. Not hung up on sensor size at all, the results are >> what count. >> >> This whole sensor size discussion -- is it any different from the >> discussion about film size decades ago, when the 4x5 shooters >> sneered at MF and later the MF folk sneered at 35mm? > > I entirely agree Nathan, especially if you change lenses, you get > the same results as before... > > "and if you didn't know...you wouldn't know..." > > it's a bit like being hung up over the ideal font size, > > > Steve > > > > > > >> >> >> Nathan >> >> Nathan Wajsman >> Alicante, Spain >> http://www.frozenlight.eu >> http://www.greatpix.eu >> http://www.nathanfoto.com >> >> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 >> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog >> >> >> >> On Dec 7, 2008, at 9:35 AM, Mark Rabiner wrote: >> >>> This is a Leica list. Some think "the" Leica list. >>> On this list how many of use are shooting with DSLR's? >>> Most of us. The majority of us by far though quite a few of us of >>> course are >>> getting good use out of our M8's. >>> >>> Of the vast majority of us who are getting most of our shots with >>> DSLR's how >>> many of use are FF's and how many of us are croppers? >>> >>> I think must of us on this list are FFers. >>> I'd love a survey. >>> or if many of us "weighed in". >>> >>> I unfortunately and not for long am shooting at 1.5 crop as I >>> have been for >>> years first with a Nikon D100 when it first hit now D200 and D40x - >>> But not for long. >>> I got my eye on January 17th for my upgrade date. >>> I like the idea of a 50mm being my "normal" focal length again. >>> >>> >>> >>> mark@rabinergroup.com >>> Mark William Rabiner >>> >>> >>> >>>> From: Mark Rabiner <mark@rabinergroup.com> >>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> >>>> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 21:18:35 -0500 >>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> >>>> Conversation: [Leica] Bad news at Leica >>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Bad news at Leica >>>> >>>> Right now APS-2 and similar 1.5 or close to it crop systems are >>>> starting to >>>> be be referred to as "small sensor cameras". This will be the >>>> preferred >>>> terminology in a week or so. >>>> >>>> In six months you will be hard pressed do find ANYONE >>>> Doing anything resembling serious work with "small sensor cameras". >>>> >>>> LEICA and SERIOUS WORK is/are synonymous or should be. >>>> >>>> >>>> There will be a GAP where there shouldn't be. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> mark@rabinergroup.com >>>> Mark William Rabiner >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> From: Bob W <leica@web-options.com> >>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> >>>>> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 01:35:45 -0000 >>>>> To: 'Leica Users Group' <lug@leica-users.org> >>>>> Subject: RE: [Leica] Bad news at Leica >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> How can we convince them that the M system is ok without AF? >>>>>> >>>>>> What the M system needs is FF not AF. >>>>>> >>>>>> Give me FF or give me Death! >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I don't think AF, FF or Death! are particularly desirable. What >>>>> I would >>>>> prefer is a sensor without the problems, and a return to the >>>>> size of the >>>>> early M models (M3 etc). So called FF is largely irrelevant >>>>> given the >>>>> resolution of the current sensor, and the availability of >>>>> reasonably wide >>>>> lenses. >>>>> >>>>> Bob >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>> information >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>> information >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information