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Subject: [Leica] Bad news at Leica - FF or crop survey
From: photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman)
Date: Sun Dec 7 02:49:34 2008
References: <C560F4F7.460A3%mark@rabinergroup.com>

I went from film to Canon 1.6 sensor to Canon 1.3 sensor to Olympus  
4/3. Not hung up on sensor size at all, the results are what count.

This whole sensor size discussion -- is it any different from the  
discussion about film size decades ago, when the 4x5 shooters sneered  
at MF and later the MF folk sneered at 35mm?

Nathan

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On Dec 7, 2008, at 9:35 AM, Mark Rabiner wrote:

> This is a Leica list. Some think "the" Leica list.
> On this list how many of use are shooting with DSLR's?
> Most of us. The majority of us by far though quite a few of us of  
> course are
> getting good use out of our M8's.
>
> Of the vast majority of us who are getting most of our shots with  
> DSLR's how
> many of use are FF's and how many of us are croppers?
>
> I think must of us on this list are FFers.
> I'd love a survey.
> or if many of us "weighed in".
>
> I unfortunately and not for long am shooting at 1.5 crop  as I have  
> been for
> years first with a Nikon D100 when it first hit now D200 and D40x -
> But not for long.
> I got my eye on January 17th for my upgrade date.
> I like the idea of a 50mm being my "normal" focal length again.
>
>
>
> mark@rabinergroup.com
> Mark William Rabiner
>
>
>
>> From: Mark Rabiner <mark@rabinergroup.com>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 21:18:35 -0500
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Conversation: [Leica] Bad news at Leica
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Bad news at Leica
>>
>> Right now APS-2 and similar 1.5 or close to it crop systems are  
>> starting to
>> be be referred to as "small sensor cameras". This will be the  
>> preferred
>> terminology in a week or so.
>>
>> In six months you will be hard pressed do find ANYONE
>> Doing anything resembling serious work with "small sensor cameras".
>>
>> LEICA and SERIOUS WORK is/are synonymous or should be.
>>
>>
>> There will be a GAP where there shouldn't be.
>>
>>
>>
>> mark@rabinergroup.com
>> Mark William Rabiner
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: Bob W <leica@web-options.com>
>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 01:35:45 -0000
>>> To: 'Leica Users Group' <lug@leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: RE: [Leica] Bad news at Leica
>>>
>>>>
>>>> How can we convince them that the M system is ok without AF?
>>>>
>>>> What the M system needs is FF not AF.
>>>>
>>>> Give me FF or give me Death!
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't think AF, FF or Death! are particularly desirable. What I  
>>> would
>>> prefer is a sensor without the problems,  and a return to the size  
>>> of the
>>> early M models (M3 etc). So called FF is largely irrelevant given  
>>> the
>>> resolution of the current sensor, and the availability of  
>>> reasonably wide
>>> lenses.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>>
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Replies: Reply from s.dimitrov at charter.net (Slobodan Dimitrov) ([Leica] Bad news at Leica - FF or crop survey)
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In reply to: Message from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] Bad news at Leica - FF or crop survey)