Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/11/30

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Subject: [Leica] Gun Photos
From: jls at runbox.com (Jeffery Smith)
Date: Sun Nov 30 02:56:09 2008
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The United States has to be the most gun-heavy country in the world, and 
the Bill of Rights does seem to protect that right. We haven't handled 
all socioeconomic things very well in the past 200 years, and we are 
paying for that now. The drug trade and drug use is completely out of 
control over here. I'm somewhat ashamed that the Beatles were influenced 
to start taking drugs by a Yankee.If we could eliminate the entry of 
cocaine into this country, we would also have the capacity to stop the 
influx of illegal arms. We're just too big and have too many miles of 
border to do that. There are benefits to being on an island (like my 
ancestors). :-)

Frank Dernie wrote:
> I agree. Despite my feeling about guns, and even though British I am a 
> country boy, brought up with them, the cat is well and truly out of 
> the bag now, and it was never going to be possible to get rid of them. 
> In almost all countries law and order came -after- guns were freely 
> available.
>
>
> On 30 Nov, 2008, at 02:53, Jeffery Smith wrote:
>
>> The ultimate paradox is, if guns are outlawed, only the outlaws will 
>> have them. No criminal is going to avoid using a gun for a robbery or 
>> murder for fear that he might be caught with a gun. And even if they 
>> were outlawed and the US managed to get ALL of them, out borders are 
>> leaky enough that anyone in the drug trade will get them immediately 
>> through those channels.
>>
>> Like the atomic bomb, it would be nice if this weren't an issue. In 
>> the south, fireams are ubiquitous. I think that the best solution to 
>> the issue would be to (like England) ban all handguns, with strict 
>> descriptions of what constitutes handguns. Most people can defend 
>> their house with a shotgun or rifle.
>>
>> About 15 years ago, Governor Mike Foster pushed legislation that 
>> would enable just about anyone other than a felon to carry concealed 
>> weapons. The left said that it would turn the state into the wild, 
>> wild west. So far, it has been anything but. The shooters are still 
>> the felons.
>>
>>
>>
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