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Subject: [Leica] LUG - Way over my budget...
From: h_arche at (H. Ball Arche)
Date: Sun Sep 28 20:37:38 2008

Or as Walt would put it, a shooter is a shooter even if all he's got is a 

BTW, that LX3 I was shooting with this weekend wasn't mine; it belongs at 
work. I bought it for the job and was test driving it. Still shooting the MP 
I bought used, and have 1500' of APX 400 in the freezer. $27 per 100' while 
it lasted.

--- On Sun, 9/28/08, Barney Quinn <> wrote:

> From: Barney Quinn <>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG - Way over my budget...
> To: "Leica Users Group" <>
> Date: Sunday, September 28, 2008, 9:12 PM
> Jan,
> I want to echo and reinforce what others on the list are
> saying. I'll  
> never afford an S2 and I'll never afford a Strad. There
> are people  
> who collect violins. Where they manage to get the money to
> do this is  
> beyond me. There also people who collect cellos. Where they
> get the  
> space to store them I don't know. Here are some of the
> things which  
> determine the value of a stringed instrument. When it was
> made. Where  
> it was made. Who made. Who has owned it, and who has played
> it. What  
> it sounds like is dead last on the list, if it is on the
> list at all.  
> Perhaps this is because to deal with the question of an
> instrument's  
> sound someone has to play it and that is a whole different
> question  
> than talking about how you bought it. It's easy to talk
> about  
> hardware. Learning to use it is a whole different matter.
> Talking  
> about equipment is just human nature.
> Equipment isn't totally irrelevant, but it's far
> less important than  
> many people think. Carter Brey is the Principal Cellist of
> the New  
> York Philaharmonic. He did his audition for the Peabody
> Conservatory  
> on a cello which only cost six or seven hundred dollars. He
> got in.  
> Some years ago I attended a master class with YoYo Ma. At
> one point  
> during the class he wanted to make a point so he borrowed a
> cello  
> from one of the students in the class. I happen to know the
> cello in  
> question. It came from a local dealer and cost about twenty
> five  
> hundred dollars. It was a cheap cello, although there is
> nothing  
> cheap about a cheap cello. He sounded every but as good on
> this  
> student cello as he did on his Strad. Point is this. At
> some point it  
> isn't about what you've got it's about what you
> do with it.
> Barney
> On Sep 28, 2008, at 9:09 PM, Jan Decher wrote:
> > Hi Folks,
> > I am getting rather overwhelmed by the volume of this
> list and feel  
> > a little bit out of place here.  I will definitely not
> be able to  
> > afford an M8 (or DMR, or S2 for that matter) for the
> forseeable  
> > future and have a much more analog low-budget approach
> to shooting  
> > and owing Leica gear than (it seems) most here.
> > Will can fully satisfy the digital needs (mosty for my
> work as a  
> > zoologist) with a lowly Canon Rebel Xsi, D50 or G10,
> but love the  
> > feel and timeless image quality of a IIIf, M3, M6 or
> SL2  and the  
> > smell of my B&W darkroom (with B22XL enlarger).
> >  Is there a Leica list for analog only, classic Leica
> users, where  
> > the newest gear is not necessarily the best?
> > Thanks, Jan
> >
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