Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/04/25

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Subject: [Leica] IMG: Grosbeaks
From: douglas.sharp at gmx.de (Douglas Sharp)
Date: Fri Apr 25 08:36:43 2008
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Hi Len,
I have Novoflex adapters too, and many broken fingernails as well to 
show for it.
The Leica and Contax/Yasica to EOS adapters I bought from 
enjoyyourcamera (Chinese made) are almost as good, as are the 
Contax/Yashica and M42 models (all with focus confirmation).
Sadly, Kindai has stopped producing the Rollei adapter (superb quality, 
I managed to get one before they were discontinued) so I have to make do 
with the very poor tolerances and build quality of the Chinese adapters 
in this case.

Other well machined adapters I have are made by HAMA  and Kindai (M42 to 
EOS) and Huppert (probably made by Novoflex) for C/Y to EOS. I also have 
a Kindai Topcon to EOS for an excellent Auto-Topcor 1.8/58mm that 
unfortunately doesn't focus to infinity (it stops at about 10 meters 
when fully open), though it is still very useful for closer stuff , and 
makes a good portrait lens as an equivalent to 93 mm on a 20D.

The only problems I ever had with lenses threatening to drop off the 
camera was with the 'sub-prime' Rollei adapters.

Cheers
Douglas

Leonard Taupier wrote:
> Hi Douglas,
>
> The Leica-R to Canon adapters from Novoflex are much superior to the 
> Fotodiox Pro version. I have both and must use the Novoflex with 
> larger lenses. The Novoflex is heavy spring loaded to keep the lens 
> tight to the camera body. All other adapters just slit and spread soft 
> metal strips to keep the lens tight, which it doesn't. I have had 
> lenses fall off the camera with the cheaper adapters. That doesn't 
> happen with the Novoflex. The focus confirmation adapters use the same 
> mounts with the chip pcb glued in. I got fed up with the poor quality 
> adapters and now installed split image screens for my Canon EOS 1Ds Mk 
> II body. I also find the focus is more accurate. i don't know what 
> Novoflex is selling where you are but it can't be the same adapter 
> that B&H gets $255 for. I use the Leica 560mm Telyt and 280mm f2.8 APO 
> Telyt-R. Only the Novoflex can handle it.
>
> Regards,
> Len
>
>
> On Apr 25, 2008, at 8:04 AM, Douglas Sharp wrote:
>
>> Just been looking at the Fotodiox adapters - the Pro Grade ones seem 
>> to be from Kindai - very close to the quality of Novoflex (if not 
>> better) - must be good they're marketed by Novoflex over here. The 
>> Fotodiax Leica and CO/Y adapters are sold over here by 
>> enjoyyourcamera.com - these are also excellent quality and are also 
>> available with  focus confirmation chips for around 80 Euros (they 
>> are built in China). What's disappointing is the quality of the 
>> Rollei QBM to EOS adapter (for those lovely Zeiss lenses) The 
>> construction is rather rough and the tab to depress the diaphragm pin 
>> easily breaks off - this one is also marketed in Europe by 
>> enjoyyourcamera.
>> Cheers
>> Douglas
>>
>> Leonard Taupier wrote:
>>> Hi Jim,
>>>
>>> Hi have been using Fotodiox for my adapters (without chips). They 
>>> have been reliable. I believe most of the adapters sold are the same 
>>> except for the very expensive Leica and Novoflex (which are better 
>>> made for 10X the price).
>>>
>>> Look here.
>>>
>>> <http://www.fotodiox.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=27&products_id=4138>
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>> It looks like any 4/3 adapter is $27.95 from them.
>>>
>>> Len
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 24, 2008, at 11:34 PM, Jim Nichols wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks, Len.  I just posted a note on the Oly PN forum to see if 
>>>> anyone has found an outstanding adapter source.  There are a lot of 
>>>> them out there, and the descriptions all sound the same.
>>>>
>>>> Jim Nichols
>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leonard Taupier" 
>>>> <len-1@comcast.net>
>>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 10:24 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: Grosbeaks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jim,
>>>>>
>>>>> The birds are beautiful. I like the colors. Time to get that 
>>>>> adapter  for your Pentax 200mm though. You shouldn't need one with 
>>>>> a chip.
>>>>>
>>>>> Len
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 24, 2008, at 11:11 PM, Jim Nichols wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am still restricted to my normal zoom lens, effectively 108mm 
>>>>>> on  a normal 35mm frame, but couldn't pass up the opportunity to 
>>>>>> get  some images of the colorful migrants.  These Rose-Breasted  
>>>>>> Grosbeaks come by our feeders each Spring and Fall and compete 
>>>>>> with  the finches and cardinals that normally dominate our 
>>>>>> feeders,  filled with black-oil sunflower seeds.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These images are cropped severely, but the colors are as close 
>>>>>> to  real life as I could make them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Grosbeak51.jpg.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Grosbeak59.jpg.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Grosbeak61.jpg.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Comments and critique welcomed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim Nichols
>>>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>>>>>
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