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Subject: [Leica] IMG: From the Cigar Box, WWII Bombers Seen in 1995
From: jhnichols at bellsouth.net (Jim Nichols)
Date: Thu Oct 18 10:58:44 2007
References: <009701c81133$d5142290$6101a8c0@jimnichols><47174922.7070405@gmx.de> <47174FFF.50805@waltjohnson.com> <4E7F9E2C-FFDF-420F-AF4F-48859FF7CCD6@charter.net>

Slobodan,

Sadly, in any conflict, there are two different views of what takes place. 
The worst thing about aerial attacks is that the crews are insulated from 
the destruction that they create.  When they realize the impact they had on 
other innocent lives, they sometimes find it a very sobering experience.

Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "slobodan dimitrov" <s.dimitrov@charter.net>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: From the Cigar Box, WWII Bombers Seen in 1995


> Funny thing about memories.
> My mother's is quite different about those flights.
> As a little girl she was sent to Belgrade during the war. It was an  open 
> city, with a marginal German occupation garrison. Apparently  children 
> were sent there from neighboring cities, and the surrounding  country 
> side, for safety during the war.
> Apparently in the autumn of 1944, on the flights back from Ploesti,  the 
> American air force would drop bombs on the city of Belgrade.  Since the 
> American air force did everything by the clock, the city  was bombed on a 
> regular basis at the same time of the day. My mother  said, before the 
> arrival of the bombers, they would be taken across  the river, and watch 
> from a distance the bombing of the city. After  the Americans had left, 
> they would be taken back to the city. All  with the hope that the homes of 
> the families that they were staying  with weren't destroyed in the 
> bombing.
>
> s.d.
>
>
> On Oct 18, 2007, at 5:22 AM, Walt Johnson wrote:
>
>> Jim
>>
>> Somewhere around here I've an image of my dad's B-24. The plane was  shot 
>> down over Hungary while returning from the fun and games at  Ploesti .He 
>> and his crew spent the rest of the was as guest of the  Germans.
>>
>> Walt
>>
>> Douglas Sharp wrote:
>>> Jim,
>>> I always did like the Liberator (Mitchell on steroids) - one of my 
>>> favourite Airfix kits when I was quite a bit younger - what the  Flying 
>>> Fortress was to the Lancaster  was the Liberator to the  Halifax. You 
>>> can still see a lot of its flying boat origins too.
>>> Cheers
>>> Douglas
>>> BTW, if you're working in Windows, try the trial version of DCE  Tools 
>>> from Mediachance - it sometimes works wonders on older  shots. Try 
>>> DCEnhance or ColorCastCorrection they've often done a  lot (and saved a 
>>> lot of time) correcting some of my old slide  scans and even newer 
>>> stuff.
>>>
>>> Jim Nichols wrote:
>>>> While working with negatives from 1995, I discovered some photos  of 
>>>> visiting WWII bombers that were in town in the Fall of 1995.   They 
>>>> were a B-17, probably a G or H model, and a B-24.  These  airplanes had 
>>>> several points of interest for me.
>>>>
>>>> As shown in take-off, the thick wing airfoil of the B-17 allows a 
>>>> fairly steep climb angle, especially when compared to the B-24  which 
>>>> made use of a NACA laminar-flow airfoil designed to achieve  higher 
>>>> speeds.  Even with partial flaps on take-off, the B-24  climbs at a 
>>>> more conservative angle.
>>>>
>>>> The turrets on the B-24 are impressive. The nose turret lets the 
>>>> gunner feel that he is a part of the crew, whereas the  retractable 
>>>> belly turret leaves the gunner on his own for much of  the mission.  I 
>>>> worked for many years with an engineer who, as a  very young airman, 
>>>> flew missions over Europe in the B-24 belly  turret.
>>>>
>>>> Taken twelve years ago, the quality of the in-flight images leave  a 
>>>> lot to be desired, especially when compared to the images that  Douglas 
>>>> recently posted from England.  However, these old birds  are 
>>>> disappearing, so I post them in remembrance of what they  represented 
>>>> during WWII.
>>>>
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Cigar+Box/B-17+Seen+in 
>>>> +1995.jpg.html
>>>>
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Cigar+Box/B-24+Seen+in 
>>>> +1995.jpg.html
>>>>
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Cigar+Box/B-24+Nose 
>>>> +Turret+1995.jpg.html
>>>>
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Cigar+Box/B-24+Belly 
>>>> +Turret+1995.jpg.html
>>>>
>>>> Comments and critiques are welcomed and appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Jim Nichols
>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>>>
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