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Subject: [Leica] Never judge a book by its cover: Brahms, Mahler
From: philippe.orlent at pandora.be (Philippe Orlent)
Date: Sun Oct 7 06:26:44 2007
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This thread is another proof of the LUGs incredibly rich combined  
background.
Truly enjoying this one. And learning a lot, too.
Philippe



Op 7-okt-07, om 14:28 heeft Douglas Sharp het volgende geschreven:

> Seems to be something to do with Hamburg :-)
> Brahms earned his money as a brothel pianist and everyone hated  
> Mahler - including Mahler ;-)
>
> Love 'em both - JB's "Variations on a theme from Haydn" was always  
> one of my all time favourites since my childhood, and still is.
> Brahms "German Requiem" is nearly on a par with Faure's for me.  
> Mahler is something superb for dreary autumnal sunday afternoons.
>
> Although  now I'm much more more partial to Bruckner, Britten,  
> Copland, Ives, Hindemith, Janacek, Milhaud,Villa-Lobos, some  
> Bermstein and just about anybody's Requiem, Mass or Stabat Mater  
> for serious listening and Delius, Dvorak, Poulenc, Lefebure-Wely  
> and Louis Moreau Gottschalk for lighter moments (nearly forgot  
> William Bolcom's piano rags - absolutely brilliant!!).
>
> Douglas
>
> BTW, I love choral music - a tradition in Yorkshire - being part of  
> "Sounding Brass and Voices" performing Parry's Jerusalem is a  
> breathtaking experience - but I could never get much further than  
> glorious Gilbert & Sullivan - my mother was an accompanist for the  
> Leeds Gilbert and Sullivan Society, so it was permanent background  
> music at home -  (and PDQ Bach :-) ) when it comes to opera/operetta.
>
> Philippe Orlent wrote:
>> Brahms digs too deep in the mind for me...
>> He's an instable romantic, I guess ;-)
>> Philippe
>>
>>
>>
>> Op 7-okt-07, om 01:33 heeft Luis Ripoll het volgende geschreven:
>>
>>>> From Sacred Cantata No.2?
>>>
>>> Now I'm listening Christa Ludwig on Brahms Lieder, at the piano  
>>> the great
>>> Gerald Moore...
>>> Luis
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Mensaje original-----
>>> De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org
>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En  
>>> nombre de
>>> Philippe Orlent
>>> Enviado el: domingo, 07 de octubre de 2007 1:24
>>> Para: Leica Users Group
>>> Asunto: Re: [Leica] Never judge a book by its cover
>>>
>>> Bach's 'Tilge, H?chster, Meine S?nden' isn't bad either ;-) Philippe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Op 7-okt-07, om 01:19 heeft Luis Ripoll het volgende geschreven:
>>>
>>>> Philippe,
>>>>
>>>> This is a coincidence, this evening I've listened three times
>>>> Pergolesi's Stabat Mater (Mirella Freni & Teresa Berganza)...
>>>>
>>>> Saludos cordiales
>>>> Luis
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Mensaje original-----
>>>> De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org
>>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En
>>>> nombre de Philippe Orlent Enviado el: domingo, 07 de octubre de  
>>>> 2007
>>>> 1:12
>>>> Para: Leica Users Group
>>>> Asunto: Re: [Leica] Never judge a book by its cover
>>>>
>>>> I agree with the tune, Steve. One of the better classic popsongs it
>>>> is.
>>>> But about Nessun Dorma: I prefer to hear it sung by f.i. Andreas
>>>> Sch?nberg, who sings it more soberly and with modesty.
>>>> Which fits Nessun Dorma perfectly. It 's the difficulty with  
>>>> Italian
>>>> music of this period: most of the time it's so overly  
>>>> melodramatic and
>>>> bombastic (the big feelings) that it becomes almost painful, unless
>>>> sung with some
>>>> reservation* :-) Then I prefer Pergolesi's Stabat Mater f.i.
>>>> Or all those German and Austrian composers that excelled in  
>>>> bringing
>>>> sheer emotion without getting preposterous.
>>>>
>>>> So at least they were good at something :-P (big smiley here)
>>>>
>>>> Philippe
>>>>
>>>> * That's why I never really liked Pavarotti: to much cheap pathos.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Op 7-okt-07, om 00:39 heeft Steve Unsworth het volgende geschreven:
>>>>
>>>>> I have to say I was expecting the worst - especially knowing that
>>>>> these programs regularly include terrible singers to help the
>>>>> ratings.
>>>>> Yes he was
>>>>> raw, no he will never make it as an opera singer, but he had  
>>>>> passion
>>>>> and commitment, and let's be honest it's one hell of a tune.
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/10/07 23:10, "Tina Manley" <images@comporium.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm glad you weren't one of the judges!  What were you expecting
>>>>>> from a cell phone salesman who has never had formal voice  
>>>>>> training?
>>>>>> Of course you have heard better Nessun Dormas from professional
>>>>>> opera singers with voice training.  I think his performance  
>>>>>> was awe
>>>>>> inspiring and gives great encouragement to everybody with a  
>>>>>> dream.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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In reply to: Message from lug at steveunsworth.co.uk (Steve Unsworth) ([Leica] Never judge a book by its cover)
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Message from luisripoll at telefonica.net (Luis Ripoll) ([Leica] Never judge a book by its cover)
Message from philippe.orlent at pandora.be (Philippe Orlent) ([Leica] Never judge a book by its cover)
Message from luisripoll at telefonica.net (Luis Ripoll) ([Leica] Never judge a book by its cover)
Message from philippe.orlent at pandora.be (Philippe Orlent) ([Leica] Never judge a book by its cover)
Message from douglas.sharp at gmx.de (Douglas Sharp) ([Leica] Never judge a book by its cover: Brahms, Mahler)