Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/09/22

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Subject: [Leica] SLD ? BUYING NEW
From: glehrer at san.rr.com (Jerry Lehrer)
Date: Sat Sep 22 13:36:27 2007
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Jay,

I'd like to make you understand my (and some others )position on new
Leica gear.  I vouchsafe to say that over 90 percent of new Leica gear
buyers are NOT members of the LUG.  They are not interested in "street
photography" . they use their Leicas to take pictures of their Bentleys or
Lamborginis.They would never consider buying a second hand camera or
lens.  They shoot pics of their Eclipse Minijets( they are not yet
in the Gulfstream 5 class.) They do not take travel pictures, but some
of them are birdists with their R9s and loooong teles mit extenders.

I am talking about the Leica owners I have met in my town, La Jolla.
They buy Leica stuff new just to have it, not to help a struggling 
company. They neither know nor care about the company as an economic
entity

Their used gear only hits the market when their estate sells it all.
You would be astounded at the estate sale prices I have paid for mint gear.

Your country's Leica people may be different, but I doubt it.

Jerry


Ric Carter wrote:
> I buy used by necessity.
>
> My used buying usually helps fuel new buying. Much of the used stuff 
> moved on this list is likely to raise money for an upgrade or to help 
> pay for new equipment.
>
> Should we call it trickle up?
>
> ric
>
>
> On Sep 20, 2007, at 1:40 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote:
>
>> Well, Sonny, if you decide that your photographic objectives are best 
>> met by
>> Leica, you better try keeping them solvent. I think it will get more
>> difficult for them unless they move production to Asia. They should 
>> do what
>> Nvidia does, become a design house, and get others to manufacture their
>> products to whatever tolerances they want. In that case a lot more 
>> money can
>> go into R&D. As they are structured at present, and at their size, it 
>> looks
>> bleak IMHO. If the world economy does slide, they could be wiped out.
>> Cheers
>> Jayanand
>>
>> On 9/20/07, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 9/20/07, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Well thats nice to know. If we want Leica to survive, we should buy 
>>>> more
>>>> new.
>>>
>>>
>>> Um.  Innovation, competition, and good marketing practice will  allow
>>> Leica
>>> to survive.
>>>
>>> Do I charitably purchase a $2000 lens that I do not need so that some
>>> share-holders get a piece of it, and thus decide to invest further?
>>>
>>> Nope, I buy the bits I need, like an M8 and batteries, and a grip.  
>>> That
>>> was
>>> not a purchase made  in hopes Leica survives.  These  things further my
>>> photography.
>>>
>>> I truly believe Leica has seen the worst and wants to prevail.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Sonny
>>> http://www.sonc.com
>>> Natchitoches, Louisiana
>>> USA
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>




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