Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/09/01

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Subject: [Leica] Re: M9
From: msadat at gmail.com (mehrdad)
Date: Sat Sep 1 08:52:14 2007
References: <200708312220.l7VMJYdQ064567@server1.waverley.reid.org> <8BD0D14C-AD5E-4D33-9757-2629FE98AD00@optonline.net> <46D8E70D.9050104@sbcglobal.net>

CP/m was not a derivative of MSDOS, it the reverse

On 8/31/07, Bill Larsen <von-ohlen@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Lawrence Zeitlin writes:
>
> > You are probably too young to remember the history of the Osborne 1
> > portable computer.  The 1981 Osborne was the first "laptop" computer.
> > It was about the size of a portable typewriter, weighed 20 pounds,
> > with a screen the size of a playing card, and a handle to carry it
> > around. But, if you remembered to bring your battery pack with you,
> > it was the first computer you could use without plugging in. It sold
> > like hotcakes. Businessmen bought Osbornes because they could take
> > them home or to a hotel room. It was an excellent computer, on a par
> > with the best contemporary desktop computers. But, there were a lot
> > of complaints. Too heavy, too big, unreliable, the screen was too
> > small to read easily, the screen aspect ratio was wrong, etc.
>
> You are forgetting a lot of things.  The Osborne was not a laptop, it
> was a computer where the screen disconected from the case with a cable
> still there (and I never weighed the thing...  but I think it was closer
> to 35 lbs)..  It was introduced after IBM brought out their PC.  The OS
> was CPM which was a derivative of "Microsoft-IBM DOS. Since the IBM
> desktops were selling at close to $3,000 at the time... and the 5.25
> inch disks were about $5 each...  and since the IBM PC was open
> architecture, programs that would run on the IBM would and sometimes on
> the Osborne (many programs were written calling on hidden parts of the
> OS - like "out985 which with the IBM OS would reset the screen colors to
> green on black which was very nice when using Lotus 123 or
> Wordperfect).  Also remember that none of the OS's would support file
> pathing).  BORLAND LIVES!!!
>
> Actually, CPM peeps versus IBM or Microsoft peeps remind me a lot of the
> arugment you are making.  And can you remember the "cube" which was
> later... but is a concept that is now in vogue?
>
> However I have no idea why you are making this argument... don't buy an
> M8 if you don't want to...I have never recommended that anyone buy an M8.
>
>
> Regards, early adopter - who in the hell wanted to do punch cards...
>
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Replies: Reply from abridge at gmail.com (Adam Bridge) ([Leica] Re: M9)
In reply to: Message from lrzeitlin at optonline.net (Lawrence Zeitlin) ([Leica] Re: M9)
Message from von-ohlen at sbcglobal.net (Bill Larsen) ([Leica] Re: M9)