[Leica] eBay & Paypal

[jcyleung8 at shaw.ca (Joe Leung)]

Hi, Didier,

I agree everything you say, but the fees PayPal charges the seller is high, 
don't you think?

Best Regards,

Joe  L


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Didier Ludwig" <leica@screengang.com>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 12:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] eBay & Paypal


> Salut Robert,
>
> I belong to the sellers which declare to accept Paypal only for 
> international transactions. I also prefer it as buyer. The reasons are 
> various:
>
> - Paypal = fast payment = immediate shipping (and leading to a positive 
> feedback for quick payment or quick delivery)
>
> - intl. money orders and checks can turn into a nightmare if you don't 
> find an institution (bank, post) in your country which will refund it, or 
> refund it without an exaggerated fee.
>
> - Money orders can take a lot of time. Once I sent a postal MO from 
> Switzerland to Wyoming, it took 10 weeks to arrive there, forcing me to 
> send a lot of appeasing mails to the seller who thought I'm a non-payer. 
> Never again.
>
> - Bank wire transfers can cost a lot - depending from where to where they 
> go - IBAN is only free inside EU but otherwise rather costly. There's a 
> high fixed fee on low amounts, and a high percentage fee on large amounts. 
> Every bank has another fee/pricing policiy, which is often not visible 
> before you do the transaction.
>
> - Sending cash in insured letters is russian roulette. I have given up 
> this option since an enveloppe arrived open and empty.
>
> Having a good feedback profile is more than welcome. I have cancelled 
> dozens of bids from buyers with doubtable profiles. But reading and 
> accepting the payment options of a seller is another obligatory 
> requirement fo a buyer. Your feedback profile won't stay perfect when you 
> bid on Paypal-only auctions and then want to negociate the payment methods 
> afterwards. You'll get negatives like "Did not read the payment options".
>
> Since a buyer does not have to pay Paypal fees, and can use it without 
> credit card (by uploading money from his bank account), I don't see any 
> reason why Paypal should not be reasonable for most buyers.
>
> Bad Paypal reputation? That sounds a bit diffuse. There certainly are 
> issues with the Paypal seller and buyer protection rules, and Paypal 
> accounts with too simple passwords have been phished in the past (but does 
> anyone have compassion for people using passwords like "abcd"?)... 
> Personally, after approximately 600 Paypal transactions, I have never been 
> involved in any trouble, but others LUGgers might have been. I don't want 
> to say Paypal is hasslefree and without risk, but it's 100x more 
> convenient than checks and MO's.
>
> Best regards
> Didier
>
>
>
>
>>Bonsoir,
>>
>>  Since *bay and Paypal are mentioned here every so often, I was wondering 
>> if anybody (surely someone must) has an explanation for the following. 
>> In the last couple of days I was going to bid (and surely win) some items 
>> on *Bay.  However the sellers flatly refused to accept a method of 
>> payment other than Paypal.  My feedback is perfect.  Why would anyone 
>> actually tie their hand with Paypal (who do not have the greatest of 
>> reputation businesswise) and lose money?  Did this happen to anyone on 
>> this list?
>>
>>  Thanks,
>>
>>  Robert (Un chevalier sans blason)
>
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