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Subject: [Leica] IMG:Test of six 50's
From: len-1 at comcast.net (Leonard Taupier)
Date: Sat May 12 15:23:35 2007
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Jim,

I think the Summitar is worth it as well. I'm always surprised at  
it's performance and think a little haze cleaning will make it like  
new. I also think I'll have the Summarit cleaned and maybe have new  
coating as well. I'm very curious to see what good coating will do  
for it.

Len


On May 12, 2007, at 6:13 PM, Jim Nichols wrote:

> Len,
>
> My Summitar is also from 1949, and I had it serviced a couple of  
> years ago because the aperture ring was stiff.  It came back in  
> good shape.  I think they are definitely worth the investment.  I  
> did not feel the same about my Summarit, so I traded it for the  
> Summitar.  At today's prices, it was a poor trade, but it made me  
> happy at the time.
>
> Jim Nichols
> Tullahoma, TN USA
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leonard Taupier"  
> <len-1@comcast.net>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 5:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG:Test of six 50's
>
>
>> Hi Hoppy,
>>
>> I have never done this test before but because of the interest in  
>> the Summitar decided to do it. The Summicron collapsible looks to  
>> have  the worst haze and it shows up as low contrast. The Summarit  
>> looks to  be in pretty good shape but is very prone to flare and  
>> has low  contrast. The Summitar is the oldest lens in the whole  
>> group and was  produced in 1949. It is a good design. It shows up  
>> as good contrast.  I will probably send the three old lenses in to  
>> be cleaned up.  Cosmetically they are all nice examples.
>>
>> Len
>>
>>
>> On May 12, 2007, at 5:43 PM, G Hopkinson wrote:
>>
>>> Len, thanks for that graphic sampling.
>>> Regarding the performance at f2 vs 5.6, that?s part of the  
>>> raison  d??tre for modern Leica glass, isn't it? Of course,  
>>> that's not to
>>> denigrate the older lenses. The condition of your particular   
>>> samples is likely to match their seniority (grand old gentlemen) and
>>> many folks may well prefer their rendition for some subjects.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Hoppy
>>> I got da top one!
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org  
>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On   
>>> Behalf Of
>>> Leonard Taupier
>>> Sent: Sunday, 13 May 2007 04:31
>>> To: Leica Users Group
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG:Test of six 50's
>>>
>>> If I ran the test at f5.6, you would have a problem seeing the
>>> difference between the Summitar and the current Summicron. The
>>> Summitar is very nice.
>>>
>>> Len
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 12, 2007, at 1:29 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>> The bottom two are pretty poor, I assume due to the maze and
>>>> cleaning marks.
>>>> The Hexanon and Summitar hold up well.
>>>>
>>>> Jeffery Smith
>>>> New Orleans, LA
>>>> http://www.400tx.com
>>>> http://400tx.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org
>>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
>>>> Leonard
>>>> Taupier
>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 11:59 AM
>>>> To: Leica Users Group
>>>> Subject: [Leica] IMG:Test of six 50's
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I just made a composite photo of the same section of six photos  
>>>> taken
>>>> with six different Leica M and LTM lenses on my M8.
>>>>  From top to bottom the photo strips represent shots taken with the
>>>> following lenses at f2 only. All of the lenses had their lens hoods
>>>> attached.
>>>>
>>>> Leica Summilux ASPH (current)
>>>>
>>>> Leica Summicron (current)
>>>>
>>>> Konica Hexanon (last current)
>>>>
>>>> Leica Summitar (very slight haze at edges, coating very good)
>>>>
>>>> Leica Summicron ( slight haze, slight cleaning marks)
>>>>
>>>> Leica Summarit ( very slight haze, very slight cleaning marks)
>>>>
>>>> I rank the order of the lenses with best on top. The top 3 are much
>>>> better then the bottom 3 for resolution. Of the bottom 3 the  
>>>> Summitar
>>>> has the best contrast, the Summicron coll the best resolution.
>>>>
>>>> You can judge for yourself.
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2xdfyt
>>>>
>>>> Len
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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