Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/05/09
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I also quite a lot of experience with Mexican Tequila :-P I do prefer the ink jets, especially the repeatability of the process. Once the image is just right you can make many more the same way. I only use distilled water for the development, the rest is tap water. Walt. Luis Ripoll wrote: > Hi Walt, > > Yes, ID11 is the same formula as D-76, my preference for the Ilford was > because it was a very useful graphic Time/Temperatures, and with D-76 I was > not sure. > > Really,do you not do more wet prints and you prefer the inkjet?, IMO I like > better the real B&W tones of the wet prints. Is a good idea use distilled > water, do you use it also on the stop bath and on the fixer, or only with > the developer? > > I never tried V-35, I think will be a lovely tool. > > Spanish beers are quite good too! > > Saludos cordiales > Luis > > -----Mensaje original----- > De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org > [mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En nombre de > Walt Johnson > Enviado el: mi?rcoles, 09 de mayo de 2007 2:54 > Para: Leica Users Group > Asunto: Re: [Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and... To Slobodan > > Luis > > I think ID11 is the same as D-76. I would like to do my own color but have > no place for processing. The local labs make a habit of damaging the film. > Up until a few years back my space bedroom was a pretty good lab. When I > started comparing my darkroom prints with my ink jet prints that was it. No > more wet prints, only wet film. I do use distilled water for development of > the film. After that, just plain tap water. Favorite paper, Ilford > Multigrade. Favorite film, Tri-X or HP-5. > Favorite Enlarger, Focomat V35. Favorite beer, Corona. :-) > > Walt > > Luis Ripoll wrote: > >> Hi Walt, >> >> I have developped my films and enlarged my pictures up to the year >> 2000 (more or less), I've do a lot and I know the process. I agree >> with you that it's a really passionating work. I've processed last >> year a few films again, but I saw that the quality of the water has >> been changed a lot, films result spotting and dirty, to do it properly >> I should have a filtering system etc..., on the other hand I don't >> have many time to be on the darkroom as I was some years ago, I always >> keep my Focomat IC with a Focotar, and I never used multi-contrast >> > papers... > >> When I was developping myself, my preferred developper was ID11, and >> Dektol for the positives, my preferences on paper was Ilford Gallery. >> >> I hope come back to the darkroom ... >> >> Saludos desde Barcelona >> Luis >> >> >> >> -----Mensaje original----- >> De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org >> [mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En >> nombre de Walt Johnson Enviado el: mi?rcoles, 09 de mayo de 2007 0:42 >> Para: Leica Users Group >> Asunto: Re: [Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and... To Slobodan >> >> Luis >> >> Why don't you give processing your own film a try? It is relatively >> easy and provides a real connection with what you've photographed. I'm >> sure your lab does a fine job, especially with the look of your images. >> Still, a mental consistency from start to finish can be a definite plus.. >> >> Luis Ripoll wrote: >> >> >>> That's worlwide accepted, obviously at this step that's not the >>> question for me. The development of my films is by a professional Lab >>> I'm very satisfied, maybe the exposure of the showed shot was not the >>> idoneous, but at least on my experience after photographing up when I >>> was 13 I only have obtained this kind of results very few times when >>> I've used old lenses, and I insist on my opinion that this will be >>> not the result with i.e. my Summicron #11819, I'm sure that editing >>> could be improved, or should be. The new Elmar-M is a nice lens, I >>> enjoy it, but IMO on these extremely backlighting conditions shows a weak >>> > point. > >>> Saludos, >>> Luis >>> >>> -----Mensaje original----- >>> De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org >>> [mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En >>> nombre de Slobodan Dimitrov Enviado el: martes, 08 de mayo de 2007 >>> 23:21 >>> Para: Leica Users Group >>> Asunto: Re: [Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and... To Slobodan >>> >>> It's a way to figure out the optimal parameter between exposure and >>> development. >>> While originally intended for 4x5, it can be adapted for 120 and 35mm. >>> I looked for it on the net, and came up blank. I did find the Fred >>> Picker material, but that doesn't address roll film. >>> This was a staple of photo 100 classes. Unfortunately processing is >>> rarely thought at schools these days. >>> One has to know the materials. If not, then that gap in one's >>> knowledge is a limitation that becomes the plateau of one's capabilities. >>> >>> Slobodan Dimitrov >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On May 8, 2007, at 11:11 AM, Luis Ripoll wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hi Slobodan, >>>> >>>> What do you mind for a "9 negative test"? >>>> >>>> Saludos cordiales >>>> Luis >>>> >>>> -----Mensaje original----- >>>> De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org >>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En >>>> nombre de slobodan dimitrov Enviado el: martes, 08 de mayo de 2007 >>>> 3:37 >>>> Para: Leica Users Group >>>> Asunto: Re: [Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and... To Slobodan >>>> >>>> Actually, it's not the lens performance that is in question so much >>>> as the performance of the photographer. >>>> The issue in this image is that of exposure and processing. >>>> Luis, tell me, have you ever done a 9 negative test? >>>> >>>> S. Dimitrov >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 7, 2007, at 3:39 PM, Luis Ripoll wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi Slobodan, >>>>> >>>>> Not at all, exceot if you want... it will be welcome as always, my >>>>> own critique is on the lens performance, I don't like very much >>>>> this picture, IMO the results of this strong backlight situation >>>>> reminds me the results I had with other older lenses, i.e. I think >>>>> that actual Summicron will performs better on such situation. >>>>> >>>>> Saludos cordiales >>>>> Luis >>>>> >>>>> -----Mensaje original----- >>>>> De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org >>>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En >>>>> nombre de Slobodan Dimitrov Enviado el: martes, 08 de mayo de 2007 >>>>> 0:33 >>>>> Para: Leica Users Group >>>>> Asunto: Re: [Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and... To >>>>> Slobodan >>>>> >>>>> Are you asking for a critique? >>>>> >>>>> Slobodan Dimitrov >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On May 7, 2007, at 1:32 PM, Luis Ripoll wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Slobodan, >>>>>> >>>>>> I had a hard work editing this picture with the new Elmar-M, of >>>>>> course it is a very strong light situation, and I'm sure that it >>>>>> would be very difficult to manage with any other lens, but on a >>>>>> such crazy test... >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3023665 >>>>>> >>>>>> Saludos cordiales >>>>>> Luis >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Mensaje original----- >>>>>> De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org >>>>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En >>>>>> nombre de slobodan dimitrov Enviado el: domingo, 06 de mayo de >>>>>> 2007 >>>>>> 23:44 >>>>>> Para: Leica Users Group >>>>>> Asunto: Re: [Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and 35/3.5 >>>>>> Summaron >>>>>> - NowSummitar >>>>>> >>>>>> I have a LTM Summitar from the early 1950's. While of a slightly >>>>>> lower contrast, what it gains in flare makes it virtually useless >>>>>> near the ocean. >>>>>> out here. >>>>>> Now the new Elmar-M, that's a different story. Less prone to >>>>>> flare, if at all, and smooth consistent luminosity under the worst >>>>>> possible light condition. >>>>>> >>>>>> S. Dimitrov >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On May 6, 2007, at 1:15 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I mean pancake flat, like an Elmar. Daniel want to put it in his >>>>>>> trouser pocket. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But now that you mention it, last week a guest speaker at the >>>>>>> LHSA spring shoot mentioned some excellent low contrast Leica >>>>>>> lenses, but I failed to write it down. Like you, I get terrible >>>>>>> contrast problems in the subtropical sun down here. The lens he >>>>>>> mentioned was probably single-coated, post-WWII. >>>>>>> It wasn't the Summarit or the Summaron (I have both of those). My >>>>>>> recollection (fuzzy) was that it was a Summitar. Anyone out there >>>>>>> use one of those these days? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jeffery Smith >>>>>>> New Orleans, LA >>>>>>> http://www.400tx.com >>>>>>> http://400tx.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org >>>>>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf >>>>>>> Of slobodan dimitrov >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 2:07 PM >>>>>>> To: Leica Users Group >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and 35/3.5 >>>>>>> Summaron >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In my lighting environment, the harbors of LA and LB, their >>>>>>> contrast suits me just fine. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> S. Dimitrov >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On May 6, 2007, at 11:09 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yeah, I started one re: people's thoughts on 35mm LTM lenses, >>>>>>>> but I didn't care if they were FLAT. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jeffery Smith >>>>>>>> New Orleans, LA >>>>>>>> http://www.400tx.com >>>>>>>> http://400tx.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org >>>>>>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf >>>>>>>> Of Daniel Ridings >>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 3:16 AM >>>>>>>> To: Leica Users Group >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and 35/3.5 >>>>>>>> Summaron >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mark Rabiner wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Is it my brain or did we have a 35mm LTM thread last week or >>>>>>>>> the week before Remember how I mentioned my Summaron? Others >>>>>>>>> mentioned others? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am sorry to have missed it. I have had to pass over hundreds, >>>>>>>> if not a couple thousand, postings lately. I just haven't been >>>>>>>> able to keep up. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks for the tip. I'll check out the archives. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Daniel >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>>>> information >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>>>> information >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>>> information >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>>> information >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>> information >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>> information >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>> information >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>> information >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >