Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/05/09
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Hi Walt, Yes, ID11 is the same formula as D-76, my preference for the Ilford was because it was a very useful graphic Time/Temperatures, and with D-76 I was not sure. Really,do you not do more wet prints and you prefer the inkjet?, IMO I like better the real B&W tones of the wet prints. Is a good idea use distilled water, do you use it also on the stop bath and on the fixer, or only with the developer? I never tried V-35, I think will be a lovely tool. Spanish beers are quite good too! Saludos cordiales Luis -----Mensaje original----- De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En nombre de Walt Johnson Enviado el: mi?rcoles, 09 de mayo de 2007 2:54 Para: Leica Users Group Asunto: Re: [Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and... To Slobodan Luis I think ID11 is the same as D-76. I would like to do my own color but have no place for processing. The local labs make a habit of damaging the film. Up until a few years back my space bedroom was a pretty good lab. When I started comparing my darkroom prints with my ink jet prints that was it. No more wet prints, only wet film. I do use distilled water for development of the film. After that, just plain tap water. Favorite paper, Ilford Multigrade. Favorite film, Tri-X or HP-5. Favorite Enlarger, Focomat V35. Favorite beer, Corona. :-) Walt Luis Ripoll wrote: > Hi Walt, > > I have developped my films and enlarged my pictures up to the year > 2000 (more or less), I've do a lot and I know the process. I agree > with you that it's a really passionating work. I've processed last > year a few films again, but I saw that the quality of the water has > been changed a lot, films result spotting and dirty, to do it properly > I should have a filtering system etc..., on the other hand I don't > have many time to be on the darkroom as I was some years ago, I always > keep my Focomat IC with a Focotar, and I never used multi-contrast papers... > > When I was developping myself, my preferred developper was ID11, and > Dektol for the positives, my preferences on paper was Ilford Gallery. > > I hope come back to the darkroom ... > > Saludos desde Barcelona > Luis > > > > -----Mensaje original----- > De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org > [mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En > nombre de Walt Johnson Enviado el: mi?rcoles, 09 de mayo de 2007 0:42 > Para: Leica Users Group > Asunto: Re: [Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and... To Slobodan > > Luis > > Why don't you give processing your own film a try? It is relatively > easy and provides a real connection with what you've photographed. I'm > sure your lab does a fine job, especially with the look of your images. > Still, a mental consistency from start to finish can be a definite plus.. > > Luis Ripoll wrote: > >> That's worlwide accepted, obviously at this step that's not the >> question for me. The development of my films is by a professional Lab >> I'm very satisfied, maybe the exposure of the showed shot was not the >> idoneous, but at least on my experience after photographing up when I >> was 13 I only have obtained this kind of results very few times when >> I've used old lenses, and I insist on my opinion that this will be >> not the result with i.e. my Summicron #11819, I'm sure that editing >> could be improved, or should be. The new Elmar-M is a nice lens, I >> enjoy it, but IMO on these extremely backlighting conditions shows a weak point. >> Saludos, >> Luis >> >> -----Mensaje original----- >> De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org >> [mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En >> nombre de Slobodan Dimitrov Enviado el: martes, 08 de mayo de 2007 >> 23:21 >> Para: Leica Users Group >> Asunto: Re: [Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and... To Slobodan >> >> It's a way to figure out the optimal parameter between exposure and >> development. >> While originally intended for 4x5, it can be adapted for 120 and 35mm. >> I looked for it on the net, and came up blank. I did find the Fred >> Picker material, but that doesn't address roll film. >> This was a staple of photo 100 classes. Unfortunately processing is >> rarely thought at schools these days. >> One has to know the materials. If not, then that gap in one's >> knowledge is a limitation that becomes the plateau of one's capabilities. >> >> Slobodan Dimitrov >> >> >> >> >> On May 8, 2007, at 11:11 AM, Luis Ripoll wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hi Slobodan, >>> >>> What do you mind for a "9 negative test"? >>> >>> Saludos cordiales >>> Luis >>> >>> -----Mensaje original----- >>> De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org >>> [mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En >>> nombre de slobodan dimitrov Enviado el: martes, 08 de mayo de 2007 >>> 3:37 >>> Para: Leica Users Group >>> Asunto: Re: [Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and... To Slobodan >>> >>> Actually, it's not the lens performance that is in question so much >>> as the performance of the photographer. >>> The issue in this image is that of exposure and processing. >>> Luis, tell me, have you ever done a 9 negative test? >>> >>> S. Dimitrov >>> >>> >>> On May 7, 2007, at 3:39 PM, Luis Ripoll wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hi Slobodan, >>>> >>>> Not at all, exceot if you want... it will be welcome as always, my >>>> own critique is on the lens performance, I don't like very much >>>> this picture, IMO the results of this strong backlight situation >>>> reminds me the results I had with other older lenses, i.e. I think >>>> that actual Summicron will performs better on such situation. >>>> >>>> Saludos cordiales >>>> Luis >>>> >>>> -----Mensaje original----- >>>> De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org >>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En >>>> nombre de Slobodan Dimitrov Enviado el: martes, 08 de mayo de 2007 >>>> 0:33 >>>> Para: Leica Users Group >>>> Asunto: Re: [Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and... To >>>> Slobodan >>>> >>>> Are you asking for a critique? >>>> >>>> Slobodan Dimitrov >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 7, 2007, at 1:32 PM, Luis Ripoll wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi Slobodan, >>>>> >>>>> I had a hard work editing this picture with the new Elmar-M, of >>>>> course it is a very strong light situation, and I'm sure that it >>>>> would be very difficult to manage with any other lens, but on a >>>>> such crazy test... >>>>> >>>>> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3023665 >>>>> >>>>> Saludos cordiales >>>>> Luis >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Mensaje original----- >>>>> De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org >>>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En >>>>> nombre de slobodan dimitrov Enviado el: domingo, 06 de mayo de >>>>> 2007 >>>>> 23:44 >>>>> Para: Leica Users Group >>>>> Asunto: Re: [Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and 35/3.5 >>>>> Summaron >>>>> - NowSummitar >>>>> >>>>> I have a LTM Summitar from the early 1950's. While of a slightly >>>>> lower contrast, what it gains in flare makes it virtually useless >>>>> near the ocean. >>>>> out here. >>>>> Now the new Elmar-M, that's a different story. Less prone to >>>>> flare, if at all, and smooth consistent luminosity under the worst >>>>> possible light condition. >>>>> >>>>> S. Dimitrov >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On May 6, 2007, at 1:15 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I mean pancake flat, like an Elmar. Daniel want to put it in his >>>>>> trouser pocket. >>>>>> >>>>>> But now that you mention it, last week a guest speaker at the >>>>>> LHSA spring shoot mentioned some excellent low contrast Leica >>>>>> lenses, but I failed to write it down. Like you, I get terrible >>>>>> contrast problems in the subtropical sun down here. The lens he >>>>>> mentioned was probably single-coated, post-WWII. >>>>>> It wasn't the Summarit or the Summaron (I have both of those). My >>>>>> recollection (fuzzy) was that it was a Summitar. Anyone out there >>>>>> use one of those these days? >>>>>> >>>>>> Jeffery Smith >>>>>> New Orleans, LA >>>>>> http://www.400tx.com >>>>>> http://400tx.blogspot.com/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org >>>>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf >>>>>> Of slobodan dimitrov >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 2:07 PM >>>>>> To: Leica Users Group >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and 35/3.5 >>>>>> Summaron >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> In my lighting environment, the harbors of LA and LB, their >>>>>> contrast suits me just fine. >>>>>> >>>>>> S. Dimitrov >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On May 6, 2007, at 11:09 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah, I started one re: people's thoughts on 35mm LTM lenses, >>>>>>> but I didn't care if they were FLAT. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jeffery Smith >>>>>>> New Orleans, LA >>>>>>> http://www.400tx.com >>>>>>> http://400tx.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org >>>>>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf >>>>>>> Of Daniel Ridings >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 3:16 AM >>>>>>> To: Leica Users Group >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and 35/3.5 >>>>>>> Summaron >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mark Rabiner wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is it my brain or did we have a 35mm LTM thread last week or >>>>>>>> the week before Remember how I mentioned my Summaron? Others >>>>>>>> mentioned others? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am sorry to have missed it. I have had to pass over hundreds, >>>>>>> if not a couple thousand, postings lately. I just haven't been >>>>>>> able to keep up. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for the tip. 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