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Subject: [Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and... To Slobodan
From: s.dimitrov at charter.net (slobodan dimitrov)
Date: Mon May 7 18:36:44 2007
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Actually, it's not the lens performance that is in question so much  
as the performance of the photographer.
The issue in this image is that of exposure and processing.
Luis, tell me, have you ever done a 9 negative test?

S. Dimitrov


On May 7, 2007, at 3:39 PM, Luis Ripoll wrote:

> Hi Slobodan,
>
> Not at all, exceot if you want... it will be welcome as always, my own
> critique is on the lens performance, I don't like very much this  
> picture,
> IMO the results of this strong backlight situation reminds me the  
> results I
> had with other older lenses, i.e. I think that actual Summicron will
> performs better on such situation.
>
> Saludos cordiales
> Luis
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En  
> nombre de
> Slobodan Dimitrov
> Enviado el: martes, 08 de mayo de 2007 0:33
> Para: Leica Users Group
> Asunto: Re: [Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and... To Slobodan
>
> Are you asking for a critique?
>
> Slobodan Dimitrov
>
>
>
>
> On May 7, 2007, at 1:32 PM, Luis Ripoll wrote:
>
>> Hi Slobodan,
>>
>> I had a hard work editing this picture with the new Elmar-M, of  
>> course
>> it is a very strong light situation, and I'm sure that it would be
>> very difficult to manage with any other lens, but on a such crazy
>> test...
>>
>>  http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3023665
>>
>> Saludos cordiales
>> Luis
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Mensaje original-----
>> De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org
>> [mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En
>> nombre de slobodan dimitrov Enviado el: domingo, 06 de mayo de 2007
>> 23:44
>> Para: Leica Users Group
>> Asunto: Re: [Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and 35/3.5 Summaron
>> - NowSummitar
>>
>> I have a LTM Summitar from the early 1950's. While of a slightly  
>> lower
>> contrast, what it gains in flare makes it virtually useless near the
>> ocean.
>> out here.
>> Now the new Elmar-M, that's a different story. Less prone to  
>> flare, if
>> at all, and smooth consistent luminosity under the worst possible
>> light condition.
>>
>> S. Dimitrov
>>
>>
>> On May 6, 2007, at 1:15 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
>>
>>> I mean pancake flat, like an Elmar. Daniel want to put it in his
>>> trouser pocket.
>>>
>>> But now that you mention it, last week a guest speaker at the LHSA
>>> spring shoot mentioned some excellent low contrast Leica lenses, but
>>> I failed to write it down. Like you, I get terrible contrast  
>>> problems
>>> in the subtropical sun down here. The lens he mentioned was probably
>>> single-coated, post-WWII.
>>> It wasn't the Summarit or the Summaron (I have both of those). My
>>> recollection (fuzzy) was that it was a Summitar. Anyone out there  
>>> use
>>> one of those these days?
>>>
>>> Jeffery Smith
>>> New Orleans, LA
>>> http://www.400tx.com
>>> http://400tx.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org
>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
>>> slobodan dimitrov
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 2:07 PM
>>> To: Leica Users Group
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and 35/3.5
>>> Summaron
>>>
>>>
>>> In my lighting environment, the harbors of LA and LB, their contrast
>>> suits me just fine.
>>>
>>> S. Dimitrov
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 6, 2007, at 11:09 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah, I started one re: people's thoughts on 35mm LTM lenses, but I
>>>> didn't care if they were FLAT.
>>>>
>>>> Jeffery Smith
>>>> New Orleans, LA
>>>> http://www.400tx.com
>>>> http://400tx.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org
>>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
>>>> Daniel Ridings
>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 3:16 AM
>>>> To: Leica Users Group
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and 35/3.5
>>>> Summaron
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mark Rabiner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is it my brain or did we have a 35mm LTM thread last week or the
>>>>> week before Remember how I mentioned my Summaron? Others mentioned
>>>>> others?
>>>>
>>>> I am sorry to have missed it. I have had to pass over hundreds, if
>>>> not a couple thousand, postings lately. I just haven't been able to
>>>> keep up.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the tip. I'll check out the archives.
>>>>
>>>> Daniel
>>>>
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Replies: Reply from luisripoll at telefonica.net (Luis Ripoll) ([Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and... To Slobodan)
Reply from walt at waltjohnson.com (Walt Johnson) ([Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and... To Slobodan)
In reply to: Message from jsmith342 at cox.net (Jeffery Smith) ([Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and 35/3.5 Summaron - Now Summitar)
Message from s.dimitrov at charter.net (slobodan dimitrov) ([Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and 35/3.5 Summaron - Now Summitar)
Message from luisripoll at telefonica.net (Luis Ripoll) ([Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and... To Slobodan)
Message from s.dimitrov at charter.net (Slobodan Dimitrov) ([Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and... To Slobodan)
Message from luisripoll at telefonica.net (Luis Ripoll) ([Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and... To Slobodan)