Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/05/08
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]That's worlwide accepted, obviously at this step that's not the question for me. The development of my films is by a professional Lab I'm very satisfied, maybe the exposure of the showed shot was not the idoneous, but at least on my experience after photographing up when I was 13 I only have obtained this kind of results very few times when I've used old lenses, and I insist on my opinion that this will be not the result with i.e. my Summicron #11819, I'm sure that editing could be improved, or should be. The new Elmar-M is a nice lens, I enjoy it, but IMO on these extremely backlighting conditions shows a weak point. Saludos, Luis -----Mensaje original----- De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En nombre de Slobodan Dimitrov Enviado el: martes, 08 de mayo de 2007 23:21 Para: Leica Users Group Asunto: Re: [Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and... To Slobodan It's a way to figure out the optimal parameter between exposure and development. While originally intended for 4x5, it can be adapted for 120 and 35mm. I looked for it on the net, and came up blank. I did find the Fred Picker material, but that doesn't address roll film. This was a staple of photo 100 classes. Unfortunately processing is rarely thought at schools these days. One has to know the materials. If not, then that gap in one's knowledge is a limitation that becomes the plateau of one's capabilities. Slobodan Dimitrov On May 8, 2007, at 11:11 AM, Luis Ripoll wrote: > Hi Slobodan, > > What do you mind for a "9 negative test"? > > Saludos cordiales > Luis > > -----Mensaje original----- > De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org > [mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En > nombre de slobodan dimitrov Enviado el: martes, 08 de mayo de 2007 > 3:37 > Para: Leica Users Group > Asunto: Re: [Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and... To Slobodan > > Actually, it's not the lens performance that is in question so much as > the performance of the photographer. > The issue in this image is that of exposure and processing. > Luis, tell me, have you ever done a 9 negative test? > > S. Dimitrov > > > On May 7, 2007, at 3:39 PM, Luis Ripoll wrote: > >> Hi Slobodan, >> >> Not at all, exceot if you want... it will be welcome as always, my >> own critique is on the lens performance, I don't like very much this >> picture, IMO the results of this strong backlight situation reminds >> me the results I had with other older lenses, i.e. I think that >> actual Summicron will performs better on such situation. >> >> Saludos cordiales >> Luis >> >> -----Mensaje original----- >> De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org >> [mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En >> nombre de Slobodan Dimitrov Enviado el: martes, 08 de mayo de 2007 >> 0:33 >> Para: Leica Users Group >> Asunto: Re: [Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and... To Slobodan >> >> Are you asking for a critique? >> >> Slobodan Dimitrov >> >> >> >> >> On May 7, 2007, at 1:32 PM, Luis Ripoll wrote: >> >>> Hi Slobodan, >>> >>> I had a hard work editing this picture with the new Elmar-M, of >>> course it is a very strong light situation, and I'm sure that it >>> would be very difficult to manage with any other lens, but on a such >>> crazy test... >>> >>> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3023665 >>> >>> Saludos cordiales >>> Luis >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Mensaje original----- >>> De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org >>> [mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En >>> nombre de slobodan dimitrov Enviado el: domingo, 06 de mayo de 2007 >>> 23:44 >>> Para: Leica Users Group >>> Asunto: Re: [Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and 35/3.5 >>> Summaron >>> - NowSummitar >>> >>> I have a LTM Summitar from the early 1950's. While of a slightly >>> lower contrast, what it gains in flare makes it virtually useless >>> near the ocean. >>> out here. >>> Now the new Elmar-M, that's a different story. Less prone to flare, >>> if at all, and smooth consistent luminosity under the worst possible >>> light condition. >>> >>> S. Dimitrov >>> >>> >>> On May 6, 2007, at 1:15 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: >>> >>>> I mean pancake flat, like an Elmar. Daniel want to put it in his >>>> trouser pocket. >>>> >>>> But now that you mention it, last week a guest speaker at the LHSA >>>> spring shoot mentioned some excellent low contrast Leica lenses, >>>> but I failed to write it down. Like you, I get terrible contrast >>>> problems in the subtropical sun down here. The lens he mentioned >>>> was probably single-coated, post-WWII. >>>> It wasn't the Summarit or the Summaron (I have both of those). My >>>> recollection (fuzzy) was that it was a Summitar. Anyone out there >>>> use one of those these days? >>>> >>>> Jeffery Smith >>>> New Orleans, LA >>>> http://www.400tx.com >>>> http://400tx.blogspot.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org >>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of >>>> slobodan dimitrov >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 2:07 PM >>>> To: Leica Users Group >>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and 35/3.5 >>>> Summaron >>>> >>>> >>>> In my lighting environment, the harbors of LA and LB, their >>>> contrast suits me just fine. >>>> >>>> S. Dimitrov >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 6, 2007, at 11:09 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yeah, I started one re: people's thoughts on 35mm LTM lenses, but >>>>> I didn't care if they were FLAT. >>>>> >>>>> Jeffery Smith >>>>> New Orleans, LA >>>>> http://www.400tx.com >>>>> http://400tx.blogspot.com/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org >>>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf >>>>> Of Daniel Ridings >>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 3:16 AM >>>>> To: Leica Users Group >>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and 35/3.5 >>>>> Summaron >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Mark Rabiner wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Is it my brain or did we have a 35mm LTM thread last week or the >>>>>> week before Remember how I mentioned my Summaron? Others >>>>>> mentioned >>>>>> others? >>>>> >>>>> I am sorry to have missed it. I have had to pass over hundreds, if >>>>> not a couple thousand, postings lately. I just haven't been >>>>> able to >>>>> keep up. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the tip. I'll check out the archives. >>>>> >>>>> Daniel >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>> information >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>> information >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>> information >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>> information >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. 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