Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/04/27
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Wade are you out there?????? I don't have LR to try this out. I only tried the trial version. My guess would be that LR would have the same colour control functionality and code as PS. I suspect a setting rather than a difference between the two apps. I see several LR books now available via Amazon, including by Martin Evening. The inquiring Hoppy wants to know as well, now. Cheers Hoppy -----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Eric Korenman Sent: Saturday, 28 April 2007 08:20 To: Leica Users Group Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: JPEG look on LR vs the web STOP THE PRESSES! - I think it is LR. I took a known great skin tone headshot. I created an export sRGB Jpeg with Ligthroom I exported another sRGB Jpeg with Photoshop. I then opened both images on another computer with internet explored (non ICC aware app). The PS Jpeg is MUCH better and truer. The LR Jpeg is darker and redder. Please repeat this experiment to see it it holds true. thanks, Eric On 4/27/07, Eric Korenman <faneuil@gmail.com> wrote: > > Solution: Buy everyone in the world a Spyder. > > ! > > Eric > > > On 4/27/07, G Hopkinson <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > > > > Eric, regarding your monitors, I meant that while they would very likely > > only work within the sRGB colour space, they may not > > necessarily be able to display all of it. However the important thing > > there is that you have your systems colour managed and they > > work. Since the browsers are not ICC aware as I thought was likely the > > case, then the image is not being mapped (by the video card) > > to the monitor profile when you are using the browser. It is out of the > > colour managed control. The images should still be the right > > temperature and brightness because you've physically adjusted the > > monitors' controls in the calibration process, but the colour > > reproduction may not be the same? On your clients' computers the same > > image would most likely be too bright and too cool at a > > default setting but you have no control there, of course. > > > > My thoughts anyway. > > > > Cheers > > Hoppy > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org > > [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] > > On Behalf Of > > Eric Korenman > > Sent: Saturday, 28 April 2007 02:43 > > To: Leica Users Group > > Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: JPEG look on LR vs the web > > > > As I understand, my monitors (planar high-end LCDs) are calibrated into > > sRGB > > space (as I have it set). > > Color compliant programs look great on it. Everything matches. Prints > > from > > pro-lab also come looking great. > > > > I am previewing sRGB Jpegs on non ICC aware browsers on my own machine. > > That is when the images go flewy and look ruddy skinned. > > > > I check out my web posted images at other computers from time to time > > and > > they also look ruddy. > > > > My guess is it is a combination of poor representation of images by > > non-ICC > > browsers and non-calibrated monitors. > > But I can't understand why the images would look bad on my system which > > >should< be in sRGB space. > > > > Thats why I like B&W! > > > > Eric > > > > > > On 4/27/07, G Hopkinson < hoppyman@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > > > > > > Eric, I'm confused there. With your monitor calibrated you have its > > own > > > profile installed. That might well fit into the sRGB but not > > > necessarily show all of it. > > > However I suspect that the weak link may be using a web browser to > > display > > > the images. I don't know if that will match what is > > > happening in a colour management compliant prog. I may well be wrong > > > there, I'm not expert on what the web browser does. I bet they > > > don't look the same as in photoshop. Are you previewing in the same > > > browser on your machine? > > > Of course you have no control at all in what your client's computers > > > (monitors) do to your images. Most would very likely not be > > > colour managed. I just recently looked at the LUG contest gallery on > > two > > > different laptops. The pictures looked horrible vs on a > > > calibrated setup. > > > > > > Cheers > > > Hoppy > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org [mailto: > > > lug-bounces+hoppyman= bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of > > > Eric Korenman > > > Sent: Friday, 27 April 2007 20:38 > > > To: LUG > > > Subject: [Leica] Re: JPEG look on LR vs the web > > > > > > My system is calibrated by Spyder 2 and the deafult window color space > > is > > > sRGB IEC61966-2.1 > > > > > > Eric > > > > > > > > > On 4/27/07, Eric Korenman < faneuil@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > I know this may be more of an adobe forum question. but: > > > > > > > > My monitors are calibrated. Everything looks super in LR, PS and > > ACDSee. > > > > Skin tones are warm and lovely. > > > > > > > > Exported Jpeg images also look great in any of these three programs. > > > > However, the images look quite ruddy when opened in Internet > > explorer or > > > > any or other lesser image viewer. > > > > I am concerned that clients are seeing very color shifted ruddy skin > > > tones > > > > when I email them or post proofs. > > > > I am sending them sRGB Jpegs. > > > > > > > > Where is the problem? > > > > > > > > Eric > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Leica Users Group. > > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Leica Users Group. > > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. 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