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Subject: [Leica] Best flash for M8?
From: bd at bdcolenphoto.com (B. D. Colen)
Date: Wed Dec 27 09:48:27 2006

I hardly consider that an "accusation," or a slur for that matter - I wonder
why you do - Reality Check 101.


On 12/27/06 11:04 AM, "telyt@earthlink.net" <telyt@earthlink.net> wrote:

> B.D., I don't appreciate being labelled as one who is
> "worrying about the 'film-vs.-digital' issue".  Please either substantiate
> this accusation or keep your planting emotions in others' words to 
> yourself.
> 
> If you cannot substantiate such accusations then don't make them.
> Journalism 101.
> 
> Doug Herr
> Birdman of Sacramento
> http://www.wildlightphoto.com
> 
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: B. D. Colen bd@bdcolenphoto.com
> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 10:56:31 -0500
> To: lug@leica-users.org
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Best flash for M8?
> 
> 
> Doug, there are people using film, and people using digital. There are also
> people who recognize the foolishness of calling the flash system for 
> digital
> a "work around," and who recognize that that kind of thinking is based on
> the belief that real photography=film - whether or not one has sprung for a
> DMR - and anything else is a "work around." Film is film; digital is
> digital. There is high speed, add-on lighting designed to work with the
> requirements of film, and high speed, add-on lighting designed to work with
> the requirements of digital. Designers of things digital no more have to
> "work around" issues related to the sensor, than designers of things film
> had to "work around" the slit of the focal plane shutter, or the particular
> sensitivities of film - they designed FOR them.
> 
>  
> 
> 
> On 12/27/06 8:28 AM, "Douglas Herr" <telyt@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
>> B.D., being the respected and experienced word-journalist that you are,
>> you no doubt know how to research the facts to back up your statements.
>>   How about you research the LUG archives and point out to us where I
>> indicated that I'm "worrying about the 'film-vs.-digital' issue"?
>> 
>> The fact is that there are people using film, there are people using
>> digital, some use both and some have used one and not the other.  From
>> the perspective of many people on this list TTL flash on a digital
>> camera is unfamiliar.  The camera and flash makers had to work around
>> the sensor reflectance issue before TTL flash would work reliably.
>> 
>> Doug Herr
>> Birdman of Sacramento
>> http://www.wildlightphoto.com
>> 
>> On Dec 26, 2006, at 7:58 PM, B. D. Colen wrote:
>> 
>>> The fact that it's a work around would only be 'relevant' to someone
>>> still
>>> worrying about the 'film v. digital'  issue. The point is that it
>>> works.
>>> It's not a 'work around,' it's simply the way flash now works with
>>> cameras.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 12/26/06 10:30 PM, "Douglas Herr" <telyt@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> what was this supposed to mean, B. D.?  It's a work-around no matter
>>>> who does it and not the real-time TTL flash that works with film
>>>> cameras.
>>>> 
>>>> Doug Herr
>>>> Birdman of Sacramento
>>>> http://www.wildlightphoto.com
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 26, 2006, at 6:58 PM, B. D. Colen wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Well, Canon, Nikon, Olympus, and Col. Sanders have figured out these
>>>>> "work
>>>>> arounds," so I assume that the superb German engineers who designed
>>>>> the M8
>>>>> have as well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 12/26/06 11:54 AM, "telyt@earthlink.net" <telyt@earthlink.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  M-TTL flash technology ensures natural flash
>>>>>>>  illumination through the activation of a
>>>>>>>  metering pre-flash.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This is the sort of work-around I was thinking of.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Doug Herr
>>>>>> Birdman of Sacramento
>>>>>> http://www.wildlightphoto.com
>>>>>> 
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