Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/10/12

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Subject: [Leica] LHSA meeting in Wetzlar; Leica Camera AG
From: hoppyman at bigpond.net.au (G Hopkinson)
Date: Thu Oct 12 00:17:38 2006

Frank, I must have explained poorly. What I meant was vignetting correction 
information being applied by the camera firmware then
stored in the RAW file, as well as EXIF info for aperture, shutter speed 
etc,. So when you later opened the file with (compliant)RAW
converter software you could use/ignore this information, in the same way 
you can alter the other values, like colour temperature,
without affecting the original file. If the camera firmware always applies 
this correction, then it would make sense that it is
always in the jpgs but optional to use in RAW files.
So pictures from a non bit coded lens would be missing some EXIF data and 
any customisation generated by the code. Here's the
original info from the early announcement in a Leica newsletter back in July.

"The lenses are compatible with the planned digital M camera even without 
retrofitting, except that the additional features cannot
be used. The lens coding is called '6-bit coding' because six fields in the 
bayonet ring are marked in black or white to represent a
number from 1 to 64 in binary code. The planned digital M camera reads this 
information optically and can identify the lens on the
basis of this code. Apart from the improvement in image quality, this 
information is also written into the EXIF image file".
 
I may well be completely off track here, I am by no means expert, nor have 
any experience with this. I just like to expand my
knowledge.
Cheers
 Hoppy

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org 
[mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
Frank Filippone
Sent: Thursday, 12 October 2006 16:42
To: 'Leica Users Group'
Subject: RE: [Leica] LHSA meeting in Wetzlar; Leica Camera AG

I doubt it.  It is a simple thing to do in the camera, you don't need no 
stinking 5GHz Pentium super duper processor.  But then
again, theEXIF file may provide the lens data, and some add-in that is tuned 
to this camera, provides the gain algorithm in the
computer. 

 If it were done on the computer from user supplied data ( No coded lenses 
were used) , it would be necessary for you to remember
the lens you used to take that picture... highly doubtful that if you came 
back from 3 weeks in Europe with 45,395 pictures that you
could remember which lens took what picture......the true reason for coded 
lenses.... Senioritis.....

There is also the issue that the oblique angle from a 28 Elmarit might be 
different than a 28 Summicron....so the specific lens
design will affect the algorithm.  I do not see this in the lens coding 
possibilities.

I still don't get it, and like I said, it could be marketing hype......

Frank Filippone
red735i@earthlink.net 

My interpretation of Leica's info release was that the
correction data was stored within the RAW file, like white balance 
information and could be used or disregarded.  

Hoppy 



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