Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/10/03

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Subject: [Leica] B&W only version of M8 - anyone else hear this?
From: msadat at gmail.com (mehrdad)
Date: Tue Oct 3 10:28:10 2006
References: <4cfa589b0610021806m8b185b4g8a71c33b24804dff@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20061002213930.02620238@infoave.net> <p06230917c1483e72d324@10.1.16.129>

are guys forgetting that we are talking about a very small company who
is barely  making it. the last firmware upgrade for dmr was buggy
(about six month ago) and there is still no fix to it.

let's just hope that the M8 has a good roll out first

On 10/3/06, Henning Wulff <henningw@archiphoto.com> wrote:
> At 9:43 PM -0400 10/2/06, Tina Manley wrote:
> >At 09:06 PM 10/2/2006, you wrote:
> >
> >>Anyway, if there's any added rumors I'm all ears and VERY interested.
> >>
> >>Thanks for sharing!
> >>
> >>Adam
> >
> >I don't understand why anybody would want a B&W version over a RAW
> >version.  RAW is the negative.  You can develop it any way you want.
> >Once it's been developed as B&W, you can't redevelop it for
> >highlights or shadows or anything else.  Why would you want that?
> >RAW has all of the information that the camera captures.  B&W only
> >would throw away most of this information. Are you going to depend
> >on the camera software to develop the negative for you? It doesn't
> >make sense to make a B&W only camera!
> >
> >Tina
>
> Hi Tina,
>
> If a B&W only M8 were made, it could still shoot in RAW, with all
> that implies. The only lack would be the filtration effects that
> Jeffrey speaks of. You would have to use colour filters again for
> those effects. However, since the present colour sensors have those
> filters in front of them, you lose a couple of stops, not just one,
> on _every_ shot. Also, since you don't have to do the thing with the
> four adjacent pixels to extract colour information, but each pixel
> only has to deal with luminance level, the result should be much
> sharper; even sharper than the present M8 (which is already sharper
> than the 5D due to the lack of anti-alias filter). You would have a
> camera that produces files that are sharper and greater dynamic
> range, and has higher ISO capability. In these areas the improvements
> would not be minor. What you would give up is the ability to
> manipulated filter effects in post production.
>
> If the price wasn't too much different than the current M8, I would
> definitely go for a M8-BW.
>
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In reply to: Message from abridge at gmail.com (Adam Bridge) ([Leica] B&W only version of M8 - anyone else hear this?)
Message from images at InfoAve.Net (Tina Manley) ([Leica] B&W only version of M8 - anyone else hear this?)