Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/10/02

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Subject: [Leica] Bryn Mawr, PA
From: photo.forrest at earthlink.net (Philip Forrest)
Date: Mon Oct 2 12:21:04 2006

It's all a personal choice, of course, but I'm also a luddite.
When the electricity goes out or my batteries die, I still take photos like
always. 
About the capture methods, yes the 4490 isn't the best scanner.  I'll have
to play with the EOS 5d or the 1DS in order to see what they can do in a
scene like this in respect to the range that the original chrome has.

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+photo.forrest=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+photo.forrest=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf
Of B. D. Colen
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 3:03 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Bryn Mawr, PA

I'm sure you realize, Phil, that the fact that your scans of your slides
aren't up to the quality you see in your slides doesn't prove anything -
except that your 4490 scanner (hardly the be-all and end-all in scanning)
combined with your scanning skills can't produce scans that are the same as
what your eyes see in the slides. Before you can say that the "50 year old
technology still trumps digital capture," perhaps you should compare digital
capture to the 50-year-old technology - because, of course, there is nothing
in your post about digital capture:
Put a full-frame digital SLR - say the Canon EOS1DS MkII on a tripod, next
to whatever film camera you're taking. Shoot the same scene, with the same
lens, and equivalent exposures - after you've calibrated for the camera's
sensor, make adjustments in Photoshop, because of course you'll be shooting
RAW and the image will need sharpening and the same kind of contrast
adjustment the film gives the scene, and then begin to make comparisons.

It's great that you're happy with the "50 year-old-technology;" but please,
let's talk real comparisons if you're going to make comparisons. ;-)


On 10/2/06 2:47 PM, "Philip Forrest" <photo.forrest@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Here are a few scans of some Velvia 100 I shot out in Bryn Mawr, PA
earlier
> this spring with Jim Shulman.  My Epson 4490 just doesn't have the dynamic
> range of the chromes themselves.  I would have to do multiple scans
weighted
> towards each color channel in order to get the incredible amount of
> saturation that the film shows.  One more reason why 50 year old
technology
> still trumps digital capture.  Not that I don't like digital, I just don't
> love it like my Velvia.
> 
>  
> 
> http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a335/PForrest/BrynMawr_04E.jpg
> 
> http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a335/PForrest/BrynMawr_03E.jpg
> 
> http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a335/PForrest/BrynMawr_02E.jpg
> 
> http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a335/PForrest/BrynMawr_01E.jpg
> 
>  
> 
> 
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