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Subject: [Leica] Sebring 12 Hrs. '59
From: rclark01 at comcast.net (Robert Clark)
Date: Tue May 2 18:37:21 2006
References: <4F488248ADCD6C419976DFE43A115091EBAC29@SV-EX01.jp2hs.campus> <A2A9016B-C663-4B21-842C-A0886DFDDEB8@btinternet.com>

Agreed.  A standing start has lots of drama and unexpected stuff going 
on..especially of there's a sharp right or left hander 500 meters from the 
start / finish line.  The US oval series run with rolling starts and it just 
slowly happens.....

Robert
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Dernie" <Frank.Dernie@btinternet.com>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 3:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Sebring 12 Hrs. '59


> Hi Arche,
> I am sure the Le Mans start included starting the engine, probably at  one 
> time with a crank. With the exception of USA style oval racing  (and some 
> oval based road races) and Karting, where there is no  clutch, a standing 
> start is normal. AFAIK only at Le Mans is starting  the engine still 
> included, but there may be other long distance races  like this too.
> Most racing cars (again except oval racers) have to have on board 
> starters by regulation. F1 dropped on board starters a few years ago  and 
> it is certainly much easier to package engine and transmission  without. 
> There are plenty of people wanting to bring it back!
> Standing starts are considerably more exciting than rolling starts  and 
> very much part of the spectacle of road racing.
> Frank
>
> On 1 May, 2006, at 18:59, Arche, Harvey wrote:
>
>> Philippe wrote, re: Lemans start -
>>
>> Loved this warp back in time, Arche.
>>
>> I've always wondered: what is the reason for/origin of this typical
>>
>> start procedure: running to the car, etc instead of a grid start?
>>
>>
>>
>> Some one else may know for certain, but I believe that, under the  rules
>> for these classes of automobiles at the time, cars had to be startable
>> without outside ignition help- ie: had to have battery, ignition  switch,
>> and starter motor built-in. Essentially they were jumped up road  cars. I
>> believe they were also required to have at least a nominal trunk and
>> carry a spare tire. The race began from an absolute dead stop. Also-
>> what a spectacle!
>>
>> Arche
>>
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In reply to: Message from Harvey.Arche at jp2hs.org (Arche, Harvey) ([Leica] Sebring 12 Hrs. '59)
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