[Leica] why we photograph?

[jadams79 at earthlink.net (kelly adams)]

I think you have that about right BD. As a retired "art" instructor I 
have had students who could not draw what they see, that is, draw 
empirically. Like math is the basic language of science, drawing is the 
basic language of the visual arts; ie  Wyeth and de Kooning are/were 
exquisite draftsmen. It is hard, it is seeing. very interesting thread.
Kelly
On Apr 7, 2006, at 8:27 AM, B. D. Colen wrote:

> I've just been quietly taking in all these responses, some of them 
> quite
> moving and inspiring, and have remained silent - a real struggle for 
> me.
> :-) But I have to respond to this..
> Saying "anyone can draw" is like saying "anyone can photograph," 
> "anyone
> can write," "anyone can play viola." While it's true on a basic level, 
> it's
> actually nonsense. Learning the basic, technical skills of an art does 
> not
> give the vast majority of people the ability to produce anything beyond
> mechanistic drech. (and btw, give most people all the drawing courses 
> yoy
> want and what they draw will still look like the begining discards of a
> begining art student.;-))
> More to the point though, I'd love to see some thoughtful expansions - 
> from
> the original posters - on the theme of "I photograph because I can't 
> draw."
> B. D.
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> On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:57:12 +0200 PHC <lists@paulhardycarter.com> 
> wrote:
> "I think it's amazing how many of the respondents to this have said 
> they
> "can't draw. I believe that practically everyone can draw, it's just
> "that it has to be taught. Like playing the piano - everyone can do
> "something on the piano if they're shown how, but not everyone can be
> "Daniel Barenboim.
> "
> "Learning to draw is rather more important than the piano if you're a
> "photographer though, because even if you are not an undiscovered
> "prodigy, and you are never satisfied with the results, you will learn
> "how to see. And there's nothing more important than that for a
> "photographer.
> "
> "So - forget about buying that new lens and spend the money instead on 
> a
> "life drawing course. At least then you'll be able to say you take
> "photographs because you chose to, not because you couldn't do 
> something
> "else.
> "
> "P.
> "
> "*******
> "Paul Hardy Carter
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> "On 7 Apr 2006, at 05:19, Grduprey@aol.com wrote:
> "
> "> I can't draw worth a Damn, so I like to show what i see through the
> "> camera.
> "
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