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Subject: [Leica] DMR mk II ?
From: rangefinder at screengang.com (Didier Ludwig)
Date: Sat Feb 4 05:49:29 2006
References: <6.2.5.6.2.20060204124310.02e958c8@screengang.com> <43D6032A0006270D@mssbzhh-int.msg.bluewin.ch>

Peter
I'm neither a Canon dslr nor a DMR user (still shooting film with a M6) so 
my loyalty problem is zero. But to compare the Canon with the DMR sensor, I 
prefer 1:1 comparison shots - made on a tripod, with the same lens, object 
and lightning, same procedure in the computer. And I had seen such shots 
(dprev and other sites). It could not be said the Canon 20d had a more 
plastic look. Certainly your DMR shots look nice, but they're more for 
comparing different DNG converters with the same file. 
Didier


>Didier,
>
>> On comparison shots found in the web, it seemed to me that the
>> colortones of the DMR looked a bit "warmer" than those of 
>> the Canon 20d, but that was just my personal impression. 
>> It could have to do with the R lenses' coating
>> more than with the sensor.
>
>May I disagree. For a certain time I had the 20d, the Fuji S2 Pro
>with Nikon glass  and the DMR and I could compare myself. 
>These are supposed to be good DLSR cameras.
>
>The differences are there and they are not minor. Not only as far
>as skin tones are concerned, but also for dynamic range and color
>fidelity.
>
>Before deciding to buy the DMR, I could test it for a week in Germany
>last May,  still with a beta firmware. I was convinced by comparing
>the results I was getting from the three cameras (in the case of 
>the 20D by using the same lenses as on the DMR).
>
>One of my most critical tests is the capture of orchids. 
>The color of dark red orchids is very difficult to catch
>realistically. The results with both the Fuji S2 Pro and the 20D
>were unsatisfactory; the results with the DMR were excellent.
>
>You do not have do believe my words.
>
>I have posted some orchid photos (Canon and Fuji) on
>
>http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00BflF
>
>and some Leica ones on 
>
>http://www.leica-camera.com/discus_e/messages/3/180750.html?1132869128
>and 
>http://www.leica-camera.com/discus/messages/23/108215.html?1132871072
>
>Look at the differences yourself.
>
>I know it is hopeless to convince most typical Canon owners, they 
>are loyal to their brand (after all, who want to admit he has spent
>a lot of money for an inferior product?), but these pictures might 
>be helpful for people who have not yet made up their minds.
>
>Cheers,
>Peter
>
>PS: more Leica orchid photos on www.orchids.mu
>
>
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