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Subject: [Leica] Re: Nuclear power (was RE: LUG Digest, Vol 31, Issue 221)
From: abridge at gmail.com (Adam Bridge)
Date: Thu Feb 2 10:17:23 2006
References: <200602021639.k12Gc75D031645@server1.waverley.reid.org> <fededdd5839708ceec785fb29002969a@shaw.ca> <013f01c62821$20f81980$2501a8c0@jblack>

Hmmm - I can't see a plasma furnace as doing anything to the nuclear
properties of the isotopes - creating a plasma means pulling off one
or more electrons to create an excited gas. That's all chemical,
however, it's the properties of the atomic nucleus that determine
radioactivity and I can't see making a plasma affecting the nuclear
properties at all. Not nearly enough energy.

The discussions I have heard about "burning" waste involve using a
very high neutron "flux" to change the fission fragments into
different nuclides which will decay much more slowly with much less
nasty high-energy radioactivity. But it takes a BIG neutron source to
do this - and I've only heard it discussed in terms of how to use
fusion plants to make a sufficient number of neutrons to burn out the
old fission high-level waste and convert it into low-level waste. It
would work but we dont' have the neutron sources to make it happen.

Adam


On 2/2/06, John Black <jblack@ambio.net> wrote:
>
>
> > Some of the past and present solutions to this waste seem inadequate
> > and short sighted.
> > Others are more credible, but considering the consequences of mistakes,
> > I remain skeptical
> > and would prefer development of other options.
> >
>
> What ever happened to the process of burning the waste in a plasma furnace
> that converts it to harmless byproducts? As I understand it, plasma
> temperatures completely disrupt the atomic structure of the radioactive
> waste (or anything for that matter) into a high energy soup of subatomic
> particles which, when cooled, revert to more harmless substances.  I know 
> it
> take a lot of temperature to run a plasma furnace but the bulk of the waste
> is not that great.
>
> Perhaps I misunderstood the process.
>
> JB (who lives downwind of Oak Ridge)
>
>
>
>
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