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Subject: [Leica] Re: Erwin Puts on the DM-R
From: rhaightjr at yahoo.com (Bob Haight)
Date: Tue Aug 30 07:38:58 2005

I'll jump in here on the Put's article. I thought it
interesting that he downplays lens quality with
digital due to what he says is enlargement without
distortion through software eliminating the need for
top quality lenses as was needed with film
enlargements. This is a critical point because Leica
is betting people will insist on using their glass
with digital. Erwin thinks this may not be the case.
An interesting read from Erwin, especially his pics
vis a vis the lenses used.

--- "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@comcast.net> wrote:

> It's raw, Scott. The current generation of Canons -
> 20D, EOS MKII - etc. are
> incredibly impressive in terms of controlling noise.
> 
> 
> On 8/28/05 12:27 PM, "Scott McLoughlin"
> <scott@adrenaline.com> wrote:
> 
> > If no noise-removal has been applied, that is on
> damn impressive
> > ISO3200 image.
> > 
> > Scott
> > 
> > B. D. Colen wrote:
> > 
> >> Speaking of the narrowing gap....
> >> This image taken with the new full-frame Canon 5D
> and posted as a raw at
> >> dpreview, was shot at 3200 iso...
> >> 
> >>
>
http://img.dpreview.com/gallery/canoneos5d_preview/img_0128-raw-rit.jpg
> >> 
> >> The question isn't the DMR and Leica's survival,
> but with Canon pushing this
> >> out the door at about 3K, it's every other
> company's ultimate survival....
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On 8/28/05 11:42 AM, "Steven A. Melnyk"
> <melnyk@msu.edu> wrote:
> >> 
> >>  
> >> 
> >>> I have just had a chance to review Erwin's
> comments on the DM-R and
> >>> frankly I am not too surprised. The long-term
> forecast for products
> >>> such as the DM--R is not good.  Why?  What we
> have in the DM-R is an
> >>> example of a hybrid technology.  These products
> and the technology
> >>> that they are based typically represent a
> stop-gap measure.  Examples
> >>> include the QBOF (the transition between the
> open hearth steel
> >>> furnace and the Basic Oxygen Furnace), the
> bias-ply radial, and the
> >>> steamship with sails.  In each case, the product
> thrived for a short
> >>> period of time but ultimately they fail.  They
> are replaced by
> >>> superior products and superior technology.
> >>> 
> >>> In spite of how much we enjoy Leicas, their
> lenses and their
> >>> products, the reality is that for most
> photographers, the future is
> >>> digital,  With new advances coming out as
> quickly as they have been,
> >>> increasingly the quality gap between film and
> digital is rapidly
> >>> closing.  I have a number of Leicas (M5, M6 TTL,
> M7, R9).  Yet, I no
> >>> longer use them as often. Whenever I go out, I
> find myself reaching
> >>> for my Canon 20D or my Nikon D2H.
> >>> 
> >>> Frankly, I am not too optimistic about the DM-R.
>  It is simply far
> >>> too little, too late, and too expense. My two
> cents worth.
> >>> 
> >>> Steven A. Melnyk
> >>> Department of Marketing & Supply Chain
> Management
> >>> Michigan State University
> >>> melnyk@msu.edu
> >>> 
> >>> 
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> >> 
> >> 
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Replies: Reply from scott at adrenaline.com (Scott McLoughlin) ([Leica] Re: Erwin Puts on the DM-R)
In reply to: Message from bdcolen at comcast.net (B. D. Colen) ([Leica] Re: Erwin Puts on the DM-R)