Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/08/28

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Subject: [Leica] Re: Erwin Puts on the DM-R
From: bdcolen at comcast.net (B. D. Colen)
Date: Sun Aug 28 12:50:55 2005

It's raw, Scott. The current generation of Canons - 20D, EOS MKII - etc. are
incredibly impressive in terms of controlling noise.


On 8/28/05 12:27 PM, "Scott McLoughlin" <scott@adrenaline.com> wrote:

> If no noise-removal has been applied, that is on damn impressive
> ISO3200 image.
> 
> Scott
> 
> B. D. Colen wrote:
> 
>> Speaking of the narrowing gap....
>> This image taken with the new full-frame Canon 5D and posted as a raw at
>> dpreview, was shot at 3200 iso...
>> 
>> http://img.dpreview.com/gallery/canoneos5d_preview/img_0128-raw-rit.jpg
>> 
>> The question isn't the DMR and Leica's survival, but with Canon pushing 
>> this
>> out the door at about 3K, it's every other company's ultimate survival....
>> 
>> 
>> On 8/28/05 11:42 AM, "Steven A. Melnyk" <melnyk@msu.edu> wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>> I have just had a chance to review Erwin's comments on the DM-R and
>>> frankly I am not too surprised. The long-term forecast for products
>>> such as the DM--R is not good.  Why?  What we have in the DM-R is an
>>> example of a hybrid technology.  These products and the technology
>>> that they are based typically represent a stop-gap measure.  Examples
>>> include the QBOF (the transition between the open hearth steel
>>> furnace and the Basic Oxygen Furnace), the bias-ply radial, and the
>>> steamship with sails.  In each case, the product thrived for a short
>>> period of time but ultimately they fail.  They are replaced by
>>> superior products and superior technology.
>>> 
>>> In spite of how much we enjoy Leicas, their lenses and their
>>> products, the reality is that for most photographers, the future is
>>> digital,  With new advances coming out as quickly as they have been,
>>> increasingly the quality gap between film and digital is rapidly
>>> closing.  I have a number of Leicas (M5, M6 TTL, M7, R9).  Yet, I no
>>> longer use them as often. Whenever I go out, I find myself reaching
>>> for my Canon 20D or my Nikon D2H.
>>> 
>>> Frankly, I am not too optimistic about the DM-R.  It is simply far
>>> too little, too late, and too expense. My two cents worth.
>>> 
>>> Steven A. Melnyk
>>> Department of Marketing & Supply Chain Management
>>> Michigan State University
>>> melnyk@msu.edu
>>> 
>>> 
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Replies: Reply from rhaightjr at yahoo.com (Bob Haight) ([Leica] Re: Erwin Puts on the DM-R)
Reply from scott at adrenaline.com (Scott McLoughlin) ([Leica] Re: Erwin Puts on the DM-R)
In reply to: Message from scott at adrenaline.com (Scott McLoughlin) ([Leica] Re: Erwin Puts on the DM-R)