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Subject: [Leica] Good Writing is Harder Than Good Photography
From: jkoplen at mindspring.com (Julian Koplen)
Date: Tue Jun 7 14:12:27 2005
References: <CBAF58BF70FEDD4699C708C19057102404332AAE@NAEAWNYDEX16VA.nadsusea.nads.navy.mil>

>From Strunk and White, "The Elements of Style", Third Edition, Page 2:

 "In the names of business firms, the last comma is usually omitted.  Follow
the usage of the individual firm.

Brown, Shipley & Co.
Merrill Lynch, Pierce, Fenner & Smith Incorporated"

I have now transmitted the entirety of my knowledge about this question.

Julian


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peterson, Arthur G CIV SEA 02" <arthur.peterson@navy.mil>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 3:02 PM
Subject: RE: [Leica] Good Writing is Harder Than Good Photography


>
> No, omission of the comma before the conjunction is NOT permissible
(except, of course, in the sense of "anything goes," which may describe
"conventional" practice "in the USA" today), and for good reason (i.e., as
Tina explained, that comma can often prevent confusion of meaning).
>
> Art Peterson
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+arthur.peterson=navy.mil@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+arthur.peterson=navy.mil@leica-users.org]On Behalf
> Of Julian Koplen
> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 12:07
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Good Writing is Harder Than Good Photography
>
> I have read that, at least in the USA, it is permissible, even
conventional,
> to omit the comma before the 'and' in the listing of names in the title of
a
> firm (e.g., Hart, Schaffner and Marx).
>
> Julian
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tina Manley" <images@InfoAve.Net>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 9:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Good Writing is Harder Than Good Photography
>
> > At 08:32 AM 6/7/2005, you wrote:
> >
> > >What I'm never sure about is, when listing a series, as above, should
> > >there be a comma before "and"?
> > >Douglas
> >
> > Google can find anything.  Put "commas in a series" in Google and you
get:
> >
> > Commas in a Series
> >
> > Use commas to separate three or more words,
> > <http://englishplus.com/grammar/00000014.htm>phrases, or
> > <http://englishplus.com/grammar/00000008.htm>clauses in a series.
> >
> > A conjunction goes between the last two items of the series.
> >
> > While some authorities say that the comma before the conjunction is
> > optional, leaving it out may cause confusion, so it is better to include
> it.
> >
> > Words: Use commas to separate three or more words, phrases, or clauses.
> >
> > Phrases: This morning I woke up, got dressed, brushed my teeth, and ate
> > breakfast.
> >
> > Clauses: In fact, the bus was full of people who got dressed, who
brushed
> > their teeth, and who ate breakfast this morning.
> >
> > Incorrect: The street was filled with angry protestors, shouting
> spectators
> > and police.
> > (Leaving out the last comma makes it look like the police were shouting,
> too.)
> >
> > Correct: The street was filled with angry protestors, shouting
spectators,
> > and police.
> > (Makes it clearer.)
> >
> >
> >
> > Tina
> >
> >
> > Tina Manley, ASMP
> > www.tinamanley.com
> >
> >
> > http://www.pdiphotos.com
> > http://www.workbookstock.com
> > http://www.newscom.com
> > http://www.americanphotojournalist.com
> >
> >
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