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Subject: [Leica] Good Writing is Harder Than Good Photography
From: arthur.peterson at navy.mil (Peterson, Arthur G CIV SEA 02)
Date: Tue Jun 7 12:04:03 2005

No, omission of the comma before the conjunction is NOT permissible (except, 
of course, in the sense of "anything goes," which may describe 
"conventional" practice "in the USA" today), and for good reason (i.e., as 
Tina explained, that comma can often prevent confusion of meaning).

Art Peterson


-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+arthur.peterson=navy.mil@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+arthur.peterson=navy.mil@leica-users.org]On Behalf
Of Julian Koplen
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 12:07
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Good Writing is Harder Than Good Photography

I have read that, at least in the USA, it is permissible, even conventional,
to omit the comma before the 'and' in the listing of names in the title of a
firm (e.g., Hart, Schaffner and Marx).

Julian


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tina Manley" <images@InfoAve.Net>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Good Writing is Harder Than Good Photography

> At 08:32 AM 6/7/2005, you wrote:
>
> >What I'm never sure about is, when listing a series, as above, should
> >there be a comma before "and"?
> >Douglas
>
> Google can find anything.  Put "commas in a series" in Google and you get:
>
> Commas in a Series
>
> Use commas to separate three or more words,
> <http://englishplus.com/grammar/00000014.htm>phrases, or
> <http://englishplus.com/grammar/00000008.htm>clauses in a series.
>
> A conjunction goes between the last two items of the series.
>
> While some authorities say that the comma before the conjunction is
> optional, leaving it out may cause confusion, so it is better to include
it.
>
> Words: Use commas to separate three or more words, phrases, or clauses.
>
> Phrases: This morning I woke up, got dressed, brushed my teeth, and ate
> breakfast.
>
> Clauses: In fact, the bus was full of people who got dressed, who brushed
> their teeth, and who ate breakfast this morning.
>
> Incorrect: The street was filled with angry protestors, shouting
spectators
> and police.
> (Leaving out the last comma makes it look like the police were shouting,
too.)
>
> Correct: The street was filled with angry protestors, shouting spectators,
> and police.
> (Makes it clearer.)
>
>
>
> Tina
>
>
> Tina Manley, ASMP
> www.tinamanley.com
>
>
> http://www.pdiphotos.com
> http://www.workbookstock.com
> http://www.newscom.com
> http://www.americanphotojournalist.com
>
>
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